The only maintenance I've had to do on Avid BB7's in a year of running them 
is adjusting the calipers every so often with then turn of a screw and 
changing the pads. I do not miss having to try to conjure devil magic (or 
relying on LBS) to adjust V-brakes to reduce squealing or (worse) cantis to 
work properly at all. 

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 1:04:30 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
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>
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:27:38 PM UTC-7, Peter White wrote:
>>
>> Replacing a warped disc is a lot cheaper than rebuilding a wheel. A 
>> customer brought in his tandem wheel a few weeks ago. It had a slightly 
>> dented rim. If the tandem had rim brakes he would have needed the rim 
>> replaced. But since it is disc, all it needed was a bit of truing. The dent 
>> isn't bad enough to affect the ride or the seating of the tire.
>>
>
> Agree. The flip side is disc brakes can be difficult to maintenance, 
> especially if it has hydraulic disc brakes. One of my friends with a C'dale 
> cross had a really hard time bleeding his brakes. He brought in a mobile 
> mechanic who couldn't do it. But, the mechanic was able to contact the 
> mfr and they found a problem with the caliper, which was replaced under 
> warranty! So far, so good!
>
>  With rim brakes, changing pads is a piece of cake and he would have never 
> had any problems. Of course, YMMV!  Good Luck!
>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Brewster Fong <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think Rich may be on to something. But is this really a problem or is 
>>> it theoretical?  There are probably 100s of thousands, if not million of 
>>> bikes out there with disc brakes!  Yes, it's new for road bikes, but there 
>>> have been disc brake mtbs and cross bikes for at least what 5, if not 10 
>>> years.  But a broken spoke is fairly minor and usually can be easily fixed 
>>> at most LBSs.  Further, a broken spoke could be from something else or it 
>>> may be from this poor dish, but everyone thinks its from something else.
>>>
>>> So, it doesn't seem like that big a problem. Maybe a survey of shops is 
>>> needed to see how many disc-brake equipped bikes come in with broken spokes 
>>> that require only a few dollars and minutes to fix.
>>>
>>> So far, my two or three friends with disc brakes love it and haven't 
>>> broken any spokes yet! 
>>>
>>> Good Luck! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 1:55:43 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I've personally built several disk wheels & a couple of those 
>>>> were fronts and will be building 2 or 3 more shortly. (On top of that I 
>>>> have probably built a couple dozen non disk wheels) No disrespect to Rich 
>>>> but the front disk hubs I have used required no dish at all! Typically, 
>>>> (from what little I've seen) the manufacturers relocate the non braking 
>>>> side flange further inboard so that no dishing of the wheel is needed and 
>>>> while I prefer not having any dish in the wheel I am not sure whether I 
>>>> wouldn't prefer it to the loss of triangulation that results from moving 
>>>> the flanges in to compensate for the disk.
>>>> I used the term sprung weight mearly as a counterpoint to the rolling 
>>>> weight and because a better term did not come to mind. It was not the 
>>>> significant point of the topic anywayz. The main point that you obviously 
>>>> missed was that less rotating mass is preferable to less weight in the 
>>>> frame. AND not to be argumentative or go into too much pointless 
>>>> explanation, but a bicycle frame on spoked wheels would be considered 
>>>> sprung weight! 
>>>> Your friends Trek probably just got a bum wheel, my XO-1s front wheel 
>>>> broke several spokes when I first got it, tore it down rebuilt it, no 
>>>> further problems. 
>>>> The average rider probably doesn't break too many spokes regardless of 
>>>> configuration, which was part of the point of what I was making. If you 
>>>> break a lot of spokes you need a new wheel builder.
>>>>
>>>> My experience with trying to straighten pieces of metal like brake 
>>>> rotors is that typically you do more harm then good. The tolerances on 
>>>> disks are so small that a wobble of less then a millimeter effects whether 
>>>> it will rub or not and by extension how good it will work. I have seen 
>>>> people "shrink" metal, using a torch/heat, but again I might cause more 
>>>> harm then good.
>>>>
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