I have the Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus front panniers in red, and they're
great.  I also have Ortlieb Back Roller Plus rear panniers in red, and
they're great as well.

Their Packer panniers have a drawstring top and lid that buckles down quite
securely.  They're much easier to open and access your gear, but they're
not completely immersible.

Their Roller panniers are more of a hassle to open and close, but they're
completely immersible like a dry bag.  You could float your bike across a
river ford using Roller panniers as floats.

I concur that Ortlieb's attachment system is superior; they can be removed
with one hand by pulling up on the grab handle, and yet they are absolutely
secure on a rack.

Best of luck,
Tim

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, kielsun <bobk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the tip, Jack B. Kainalu, you're probably right that I might as
> well buy the ones that I actually like even if it'll cost me a few extra
> bucks. I found the Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus panniers (same material as
> those mentioned above but with a lid of sorts) for about $150, and these
> provide a few extra L of space compared to the front rollers.
>
> I'm also looking at Carrdice Kendal panniers (or the Super C, although
> they're not as fashionable). I like the extra pockets, and the Kendal set
> is more attractive than any of the Ortlieb models. Anyone have experience
> with those?
>
> Thanks again for answering all of my rookie questions and queries.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 12:21:38 AM UTC-4, Jack B wrote:
>>
>> I have some black back rollers, and they're good, but I hate trying to
>> find anything lost in the bag. I they make a lighter interior color, then
>> definitely consider it!
>>
>> More than once I've strewn a pile of pannier stuff on the sidewalk
>> looking for my keys or light. So dark in there!
>>
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