Steve retorted:

"No, a thousand times no, that is absolutely not right.  How bloody 
expensive is a fender eyelet or rack mount fitting?  Come on - that stuff 
isn't expensive at all.  But a bicycle meant to take fenders and racks 
should have fender eyelets and rack mounts.  Period.   This has nothing to 
do with being expensive, and everything to do with being fully thought out 
as opposed to half-assed and not finished.   If that is snobbery, then so 
be it.   The Taylor brothers were constructeurs too, and god knows they 
were as down to earth working class as it comes (and I have a great 
reverence for Jack Taylor bicycles)."

Stay on topic, Steve.  We can't insist on debating if you change the 
subject.  The subject, as indicated in the subject line of this very post, 
has nothing to do with mounting racks or fenders to bicycle frames.  The 
subject here is about mounting a Wald Basket to a solid front rack.  That's 
it.  I assert that zip ties are perfectly OK for mounting a Wald Basket to 
a Nitto Front Rack.  If you are agreeing with me on that point, then great 
we agree.

If you want to close on your change of subject, I'm willing to do that. 

I agree with you that zipties are insufficient to attach a rack to a 
bicycle frame.  Anybody who does that is dumb, in my opinion.  Any 
manufacturer who recommends it is reckless.  

I agree with you that a bike that is designed for fenders should have 
fender eyelets at the dropouts.  Manufacturers who make bikes without 
fender eyelets at the dropouts should not recommend installing fenders.  

If you are double-changing the subject off of zipties entirely, and back to 
your favorite Riv-bashing subject, then I just don't know what to do about 
that.  Please don't tell me we are getting back on to your favorite 
Riv-bashing subject *AGAIN*.....Talk about mind-numbingly boring.  That's 
even more boring than a dark green bicycle.  



 
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