I agree, Steve. At 70˚F and up if it's raining I'm happy in hat, t-shirt, 
shorts. What do you wear in rain at 70˚+F?

Round these parts (Colorado mountains) rain falls (pun intended) into to 
categories:

-- quick, cool, refreshing. Blown in and through and cools you down 
wonderfully and the sun is out in 10-20 minutes. No jacket required if 
starting temp is 70+ Even in the mountains with limited view of the sky, 
these squalls are easy to see and know there is no need to don a jacket.
-- Instant shift of seasons from summer to late fall or early spring. No 
matter the starting temp (90 even) the temp plummets to 40-50 and it can 
last from 30 minutes to the rest of the day or even several days. This is 
what ventile is for. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 7:45:27 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 06/06/2016 07:26 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
> > Here are shots of the two ventile 
> > jackets. 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/albums/72157668960378292/with/27411432702/
>  
> > 
> > 
> > Best jackets ever. Period. I've tried every type of system. Got soaked 
> > in every one, either from the inside (sweat), the outside (rain), or 
> > both. Until ventile. Perfect for -20˚F up to 60˚F with any and all 
> > adverse weather conditions (wind, rain, sleet, wet snow, dry snow, 
> > arctic temps. Just regulate with various layers underneath. Good to 
> > go! Grin. 
>
> I agree about Ventile.  Within its range, it's great - and not just as a 
> rain jacket.  Ventile jackets look like perfectly ordinary lightweight 
> jackets, only they happen to be incredibly water resistant.  The trouble 
> is, when it's 70 or 80 they're too warm.  I imagine on their home turf 
> that's seldom a problem. 
>
>

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