I have the large Wald basket from Rivbike tied to my rear rack with about a
dozen of these
http://m.homedepot.com/p/VELCRO-brand-8-in-x-1-2-in-Reusable-Ties-50-Pack-90924/202261940
Paul in Dallas
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Wet and sloppy grocery run! -
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Need info on Bottom Bracket for Biopace Triple -
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OT - Help me decide how to spend a day in Sacramento /San Francisco -
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Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)
Bill Lindsay <[email protected]>: Jun 06 04:42PM -0700
Steve retorted:
"No, a thousand times no, that is absolutely not right. How bloody
expensive is a fender eyelet or rack mount fitting? Come on - that stuff
isn't expensive at all. But a bicycle meant to take fenders and racks
should have fender eyelets and rack mounts. Period. This has nothing to
do with being expensive, and everything to do with being fully thought out
as opposed to half-assed and not finished. If that is snobbery, then so
be it. The Taylor brothers were constructeurs too, and god knows they
were as down to earth working class as it comes (and I have a great
reverence for Jack Taylor bicycles)."
Stay on topic, Steve. We can't insist on debating if you change the
subject. The subject, as indicated in the subject line of this very post,
has nothing to do with mounting racks or fenders to bicycle frames. The
subject here is about mounting a Wald Basket to a solid front rack. That's
it. I assert that zip ties are perfectly OK for mounting a Wald Basket to
a Nitto Front Rack. If you are agreeing with me on that point, then great
we agree.
If you want to close on your change of subject, I'm willing to do that.
I agree with you that zipties are insufficient to attach a rack to a
bicycle frame. Anybody who does that is dumb, in my opinion. Any
manufacturer who recommends it is reckless.
I agree with you that a bike that is designed for fenders should have
fender eyelets at the dropouts. Manufacturers who make bikes without
fender eyelets at the dropouts should not recommend installing fenders.
If you are double-changing the subject off of zipties entirely, and back to
your favorite Riv-bashing subject, then I just don't know what to do about
that. Please don't tell me we are getting back on to your favorite
Riv-bashing subject *AGAIN*.....Talk about mind-numbingly boring. That's
even more boring than a dark green bicycle.
Bill Lindsay <[email protected]>: Jun 06 04:51PM -0700
Steve recommended:
"And apropos of the day, you might want to listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-weBUzQleo "
For those who don't like clicking links, Steve's link was to a recording of
the radio message FDR delivered to the American people on the morning after
Operation Overlord had initiated, the bulk of which was a prayer for the
brave soldiers and the nation. I'm very familiar with that message, but
it's moving to hear it again.
Steve Palincsar <[email protected]>: Jun 06 09:42PM -0400
On 06/06/2016 07:42 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> front rack. That's it. I assert that zip ties are perfectly OK for
> mounting a Wald Basket to a Nitto Front Rack. If you are agreeing
> with me on that point, then great we agree.
And we do indeed agree, subject to my proviso regard UV resistance.
Anton Tutter <[email protected]>: Jun 06 06:52PM -0700
Oh boy.
<https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8717/17046834881_9f3e63f278_c.jpg>
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Steve Palincsar <[email protected]>: Jun 06 10:05PM -0400
Nothing boring about that bad boy.
On 06/06/2016 09:52 PM, Anton Tutter wrote:
David Hays <[email protected]>: Jun 06 10:07PM -0400
Always love seeing that Mercian Anton.
David
Bill Lindsay <[email protected]>: Jun 06 07:49PM -0700
EPIC bluff-call, Anton! I gratefully accept your gift of that fine
Mercian.....and true to my word I humbly offer it back to you.
Bill
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Wet and sloppy grocery run!
LeahFoy <[email protected]>: Jun 06 05:00PM -0700
I'm amazed, I tell you. There should be a prize for this! 15 dozen
eggs?!? And all arrived home whole? You win!
Deacon Patrick <[email protected]>: Jun 06 05:12PM -0700
Ha! Yes, eggs are fortunately tougher than we give them credit for.
They
survived some fairly jouncy roads and singletrack (for eggs). No mandatory
scrambled eggs for dinner! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 6:00:00 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
Steve Palincsar <[email protected]>: Jun 06 09:45PM -0400
On 06/06/2016 07:26 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> adverse weather conditions (wind, rain, sleet, wet snow, dry snow,
> arctic temps. Just regulate with various layers underneath. Good to
> go! Grin.
I agree about Ventile. Within its range, it's great - and not just as a
rain jacket. Ventile jackets look like perfectly ordinary lightweight
jackets, only they happen to be incredibly water resistant. The trouble
is, when it's 70 or 80 they're too warm. I imagine on their home turf
that's seldom a problem.
Deacon Patrick <[email protected]>: Jun 06 06:57PM -0700
I agree, Steve. At 70˚F and up if it's raining I'm happy in hat,
t-shirt,
shorts. What do you wear in rain at 70˚+F?
Round these parts (Colorado mountains) rain falls (pun intended) into to
categories:
-- quick, cool, refreshing. Blown in and through and cools you down
wonderfully and the sun is out in 10-20 minutes. No jacket required if
starting temp is 70+ Even in the mountains with limited view of the sky,
these squalls are easy to see and know there is no need to don a jacket.
-- Instant shift of seasons from summer to late fall or early spring. No
matter the starting temp (90 even) the temp plummets to 40-50 and it can
last from 30 minutes to the rest of the day or even several days. This is
what ventile is for. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 7:45:27 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
Steve Palincsar <[email protected]>: Jun 06 10:04PM -0400
On 06/06/2016 09:57 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> I agree, Steve. At 70˚F and up if it's raining I'm happy in hat,
> t-shirt, shorts. What do you wear in rain at 70˚+F?
O2 Original Rain Jacket. At 70 I unzip the zipper much of the way for
ventilation. Light, cheap and pretty decent in warm weather.
Deacon Patrick <[email protected]>: Jun 06 07:43PM -0700
Ahhh! Yes. I SO wanted those to work when I tried them. As you say:
light
and cheap. For me, if I looked at a tree branch wrong, they suddenly had
uncontrollable ventilation. If I so dared brush against a branch, I left
half the jacket behind. Sardonic grin. At which point, if it was 70˚F and
above, I'd be back to my t-shirt, hat, and shorts. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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Need info on Bottom Bracket for Biopace Triple
"Mike K." <[email protected]>: Jun 06 07:31PM -0700
Hey all,
I'm trying to find the appropriate bottom bracket for a Biopace triple,
model number FCR-124 or FC-R124, depending on who you ask.
Anyone familiar with it and what length spindle to use?
- Mike
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OT - Help me decide how to spend a day in Sacramento /San Francisco
SeanMac <[email protected]>: Jun 06 07:09PM -0700
Thank you all so much for your suggestions. What a great group of
friends! I managed to pick up a few travel guidebooks at my library the
other day. So, with your suggestions in mind, I will spend some time
pouring through the books, studying various maps, trying to make some sense
of how I should spend my time in the big city.
I appreciate the layering suggestions. I live in Buffalo, NY, so cold
weather is not really a concern. However, if I leave Sacramento and its
100 degrees (I really hope that will not be the case), I'll be sure to
carry a nice, cozy Ibex top with me.
Speaking of Sacramento, I recently read something about the American River
Trail. Anyone familiar with this trail? My hotel is pretty near the
trail, and it does appear that bike rentals are available. Perhaps I can
manage a ride on the trail while I am in Sacramento.
So far, I'm somewhat sold on the idea of riding the ferry from Oakland to
San Francisco. Richard, thanks for your suggestions for things to do in
Oakland. When I eventually do get to San Francisco, I do want to do a bit
of walking in the heart of the city. David - I like your suggestions.
Blue Bottle Coffee at the ferry station along with some walking / eating /
shopping sounds like some fun. If time allows, a walk / ride across the
Golden Gate Bridge and some time in the park sounds like fun.
At this point, I have moved away from a Giants game. As much as I would
like to see the park, I hate to tie up so much time watching a game.
However, it is good to know that I can sneak a peak inside the stadium for
free. That sounds do-able.
A trip to Rivendell still intrigues me. I'll have to look at the train
schedules to see if I can catch a train that will get me to Walnut Creek
early in the morning. I don't own a Rivendell. In fact, I've only
seen/ridden one once - a test ride of a Rambouillet approximately 9 years
ago at a dealership in Burlington Vt. (the Alpine Shop, I believe). I
ended up not buying that bike (a mistake, I now realize - I bought a custom
frame from Bob Brown Cycles instead). Hence, I would love the chance to
see a few frames, get my PBH measured, go for a ride or two and soak up
some Riv atmosphere. However, I need to decide how much time I can devote
to such a visit.
Another variable is that my seminar group is heading to San Francisco on a
Thursday to view the San Francisco Maritime National Park. I don't know
how long we will be there, but my schedule says that we will also have some
free time in San Francisco that day. Perhaps that trip will allow me to
experience a few of the "to do's" on my list, leaving me time to visit
Rivendell.
Thank goodness I have some time to think about the possibilities!
Evan - thanks for your suggestion of contacting you / the list again as I
get closer to my trip. I'll definitely do that!
Thanks again everyone.
Sean
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 2:09:18 AM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote:
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OT: Mac OS X to Ubuntu question
Kevin Lindsey <[email protected]>: Jun 06 05:14PM -0700
Boy, this is indeed off topic.
As an alternative, you might simply try installing "Parallels" for OSX. It
runs Ubuntu as a virtual machine while leaving OSX intact and still
accessible. I run it on my Mac Air and it works flawlessly.
Kevin
On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 11:46:13 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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eCLEM
Evan Baird <[email protected]>: May 31 04:28PM -0700
When I first saw the geometry for these I figured that was Riv's plan
all
along. It makes perfect sense. The ebike commuter market in California is
set to grow far in excess of the rest of the bike industry combined, and
there bikes are loads more appealing to the target demographics (aka non
spandorks).
Joe Bernard <[email protected]>: Jun 01 04:03AM -0700
Evan, I'm not sure Grant had much thought of ebikes in the development
of CLEM, but I'll buy that the youngsters may have given it some thought. I
know Dave rode a bunch of electrics in Taiwan, and plans to get a shop CLEM
boosted one of these days. It's definitely a good platform for it, although I
think the commuter market is in turnkey ebikes, not kit conversions. I would be
shocked if we ever saw a dedicated eRiv..I suspect just reading that sentence
would make GP blanch ;-)
Ryan Fleming <[email protected]>: Jun 01 11:08AM -0700
Not ready to go there yet, but it's something to consider especially
that
I'm on the tail end of the boomer generation (born in 1952) where health
issues can start...arthritis, heart issues...whatever and it looks like you
can turn the assist off. If it prolongs your bike-riding life then I say go
for it. I've seen a few electric/gas-powered assist McGivered bikes in
Winnipeg. Joe, I think you did a very interesting thing there, actually.
Yes, you should ride it to Walnut Creek and show it off!
On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 4:04:43 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Joe Bernard <[email protected]>: Jun 01 08:33PM -0700
On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:08:03 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 4:04:43 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:I'm a current
> motorhead (I love auto racing and my FIAT Abarth) and ex motorcycle rider, so
> this clicks several boxes for me. I don't consider eCLEM a replacement for my
> non-assist bikes; it's kind of a different thing, like a really light,
> low-power motorbike you can pedal.
> I know Grant had no intention of accomplishing it, but his long-chainstay
> design and stable handling is a fabulous platform for electric assist. I did
> a very hilly ride today, mostly with the assist at low levels so I was still
> doing some of the work, and it was an absurd amount of fun.
> I'm not here to convert anyone to electric, I'm just showing it because it's
> on my Riv, and this is where people show their Rivs. Am I the first to try
> it? I know Dave at RBW intends to do one eventually, but I don't think he's
> gotten to it yet. I should ride it to Walnut Creek and show him!
Here's a new pic from my Two Bridges ride through
Vallejo/Benicia/Martinez/Crockett today. New Nitto rack from Riv; Platrack and
whatever that bag is called from Franklyn. Thanks, Franklyn!
Evan Baird <[email protected]>: Jun 02 02:30PM -0700
For the record, I'm keeping it all organic until my shitty joints
finally crap out.
Steve Palincsar <[email protected]>: Jun 02 05:39PM -0400
On 06/02/2016 05:30 PM, Evan Baird wrote:
> For the record, I'm keeping it all organic until my shitty joints finally
> crap out.
Even when they do, prosthetics don't require electric powered bicycles
(having half an artificial knee I can speak with personal knowledge on
this subject). Actually most everyone I know using e-bikes has either
blocked coronary arteries or a heart damaged by an MI. That could just
be the demographic I hang out with, though...
Joe Bernard <[email protected]>: Jun 02 04:10PM -0700
To be clear - I'm not sure it is anymore in this long thread - my
interest in ebikes is primarily because they're fun. Yes it makes my big hill
easier to climb, but I didn't buy my first electric for any other reason than I
found one cheap on Craigslist in my area, and thought it would be interesting
to try. It turned out to be WAY more fun than I anticipated, which is how we
got to eCLEM. I can still climb the hill on my non-asist bikes, and sometimes
still do. Sometimes I don't!
David Person <[email protected]>: Jun 02 04:46PM -0700
Very cool Joe.
Joe Bernard <[email protected]>: Jun 06 05:01PM -0700
Someone mentioned I would need fatter tires (Patrick Moore?), and I
blew it off with "later after the skinny slicks wear out..I'll be fine." Wrong!
I greatly underestimated how harsh the ride would be on a now-heavy bicycle
capable of running a consistent 20mph. Sheesh! I have Continental "Traffic II"
2.1-inch tires on the way.
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