Thanks! I felt a little shy about chiming in with my experience in light of 
all the very knowledgeable people here so I appreciate your and everyone's 
kind welcome.

I don't ride in KOPS position on any of my bikes - whether I have drop bars 
or upright. I always prefer my saddle back and a somewhat recumbent angle 
to my pedaling. Also, after trying every kind of clipless pedal system, 
I've concluded that I always prefer flat pedals for a whole host of 
reasons. This means I can move my feet around depending on conditions. I 
often have my feet further forward on the flat pedal than I'd ever have 
with a clipless pedal but I can change it up as needed. I love that freedom.

This reminds me that I put a Nitto Jaguar seatpost on my Joe because I 
think it gave me a little bit more setback than the stock post, which 
probably only matters if you have a Brooks saddle with short rails. It was 
a very small difference that I could be imagining but it seemed to feel 
better.

In consideration of your prior questions, I did a pretty steep climb on my 
upright Sam and thought about the difference between that and the Joe. I 
found I was always comfortable in the bar-end grip position, even at grades 
of 8-12%, but the Sam feels lighter and less planted on the ground than the 
Joe, with or without a front load on Joe. It is possible that a slightly 
lower position of my upright bars on Sam would help by adding a bit more 
weight to the front wheel. I think I prefer climbing with uprights to drops 
because the airflow to my lungs is better and I can enjoy the view more, 
which matters when you climb as slowly as I do. 

So commuting, touring, climbing (all slow for me) are all great with 
upright bars. Zooming along at high speeds is also fun upright. And, for 
me, descending with an upright bar is easier because the position slows me 
down and the brakes are easier to squeeze. I got a hand cramp yesterday 
doing a steep descent using drop bars with brakes that are hard for me to 
reach and squeeze (something I need to address on that bike). But I do like 
my drop bars too, especially when I am doing longer rolling routes where I 
like to go faster and can relax into various grip positions for some period 
of time. It is sort of hard to explain but the upright position is a more 
vigilant/aware position where the drop bar positions are more meditative 
and day-dreamy for me. I am following your other thread to see what others 
say about their upright riding preferences.
 

 
 
On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:08:23 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Thanks, Val!
> Most informative. Nice ride report and info. Best thread I have seen in a 
> while here.
>
> One last question:
>
> Do you ride with your saddle positioned in KOPS, or slid all the way back 
> on the rails, etc? Just curious to see what people like on their upright 
> bikes for positioning.Thanks.
>

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