It's probably better to go by reach, stack and STA nowadays if you know what you like. But on more traditional bikes with levelish top tubes like Riv used to do, or especially vintage bikes i.e. with no HT extension, it's PBH - 25cm for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere near saddle height. It does say this somewhere on Riv's website but I can't find it.
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