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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not 100% familiar with the older models. Was the Rambouillet sold as a 
>> complete?
> 
> no
There was a brief period where the Rambouillet (blue) was sold complete. I have 
the brochure.

It replaced the Romulus/Redwood complete when Riv decided it was too much to 
sell both Ram framesets AND Romulus/Redwood bikes.

This was a bit over ten years ago, I think. Riv made an announcement online 
that the Ram was being discontinued, and they would just offer Romulus (and 
maybe Redwood?) at it's great price, complete. The public outcry over this was 
loud (within our subculture). Whether responding to the outcry or not, Riv 
changed the plan and decided to end the bike named "Romulus" (and Redwood), and 
instead created a complete Ram bike offering to go alongside the Ram frameset. 
The parts on it were much like the Rom, maybe identical: 46-36-24 crank, 
Shimano long reach Tiagra brakes, indexed 9-speed triple, Barend shifters. 
Tires were 28, I believe. I think the price was a bit higher than Rom price 
from before, but still a very good deal. (Ram frame's details made it a little 
fancier than Rom, while functionally about the same.) The Ram bike was offered 
in even sizes, including 64, 66, and 68 cm. The brochure is very nice, which is 
why I saved it. The cover shows the bike being ridden as a road bike on a dirt 
road. Idyllic. There is a parts list in the brochure.

A Riv classic! Ram (bike or frame) was sidelined a few years later partly by 
the easy ability to do even bigger tires on a road bike, an ease which was 
enhanced by brakes like the Silver, the Tektro 559, and some by Paul. The Ram 
was not made for the reach of these exciting new brakes that Riv was focusing 
on, and around '07-08, the AHH started to nudge it out of the lineup by virtue 
of AHH's versatility through tire clearance. No, they are not the same frame, 
but Riv could only offer so much, so they took things in the direction of 
bigger tires and put the Ram to sleep. It woke up once very briefly (a last 
small batch), and has been sleeping for 7 or 8 years since.

In Ram's absence, AHH and Hillborne clearly performed the duty of 
versatile/efficient bike, but the other side of Ram's personality, that of 
"road bike" was not in the Riv lineup for a couple of years. This was void was 
filled starting in early 2010 or so with the Roadeo.

-James W.


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