Hi Patrick -

I have been using a Novara messenger bag with the shoulder and belly strap 
you mention for more than ten years. I like it so much that each time 
something fails, I take it to the local outdoor repair shop and invest in 
another fix. Probably got $150 in fixes.

It cost $58 new (less the dividend from REI).

I think this looks somewhat like mine: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOVARA-LARGE-CYCLING-MESSENGER-BAG-/142105813078

Although mine is all black.

Good luck in your search.

Regards,



Corwin

On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 1:42:42 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Let's just say 10" X 15" ... plus a book or 2 and the usual keys, 
> sunglasses, and other small bits.
>
> "Courier" bag, because I want something I can use on the bike.I also want 
> the design with a waist strap, not the type that cinches to your shoulder
>
> Color: not too particular, as long as it is dull: gray, black, tan, brown, 
> beige, olive, taupe -- sad sack color.
>
> Materials, ditto, as long as they are sturdy.
>
> Offers? Or, links to good buys?
>
> I've looked at the JUMBO Rivendell Grabsack; will that work? I have a 
> regular Grabsack, and that one won't.
>
> Thanks.
>
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