I don't know if the road Microshift rd I used was a Centos; I expect not,
because it was several years old and had no big Centos on it. But whatever
it was, it was the very best shifting rd I've ever used, and shifted 9
mismatched with Silver BESs better than the current 8 speed Dura Ace does.

I'm pleased to see that others can shift 10 in friction without problem.
Must try that myself one day.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Reed Kennedy <r...@notfine.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Clayton.sf <clayton...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't use friction with 10 speed. Too fiddly especially when tired.
>> That is not a function of the type of friction shifter though.
> Just a quick counterpoint: I recently bought a Velo Routier. It came stock
> with Silver shifters, a 10 speed 12-28 cassette, and a Microshift Centos
> rear derailleur like this one: https://www.amazon.com/
> microSHIFT-Derailleur-RD-R57SE-Bicycle-Compatible/dp/
> B014L49ZME/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1474048526&sr=8-3&
> keywords=centos+derailleur
> I was originally apprehensive about this combination for exactly the
> reasons Clayton describes. But taking it for a ride, I was surprised how
> well it worked. It was very difficult to find "bad" shift lever positions.
> Nine times out of ten whatever position I'd stick the lever in would just
> find a gear and work great with no trimming. The tenth time I'd just trim a
> bit. It worked so well I came to really enjoy the downtube shifters.
> This is markedly different than my other friction bikes which require more
> active and more frequent trimming (and all have barcons because of it).
> Perhaps the derailleur is doing something special? Maybe with the floating
> top pulley? I don't know.
> I later realized that Fred over on the 650B list rode the same bike
> (literally the one I later bought) and made a similar observation:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/650b/6vYkUkoO_l4/T7gcNitEuC4J
> Last note: This bike and derailleur only have a few hundred miles on them,
> tops, so I can't speak to the longevity of this Microshift derailleur. But
> it sure is working great now!

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