Totally agree that ETT isn't the end-all-be-all, but for something a bit 
more racey/fastish don't you want more weight on the front of the wheel so 
a longer stem? 

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 3:08:05 PM UTC-4, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> I'm with Grant sizing wise 100% on this one about not letting top tube 
> length lead you around to much by the nostrils. My experience with the top 
> tube length has been it is pretty easy to adjust for with a shorter / 
> longer stem and depending on how high your bars are much of that length can 
> be easily eaten up. Also if you do happen to look at the geometry chart on 
> surly's website you will notice that the ETT lengths in the 56 58 sizes of 
> cross check and pacer are very similar. Doesn't really make sense to 
> compare the smaller sizes to middle and larger range. Bikes grow taller 
> much more than they grow longer as sizes go up. Also surly did a little 
> write up about how smaller frames will end up with longer top tubes due to 
> a number of factors. It's worth the read. So again IMHO either frame should 
> have you close enough depending on what you are looking for. Sportier 
> clubish fastish rides 56, bit more distance / comfort oriented but still 
> spirited 58... If I were you I'd personally lean toward the 58. Again just 
> my .02 and I still think the 60 would be worth considering !)

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