My PBH is 83.x. If I was going to get a Pacer, it'd be a 52 or 54, but 
certainly I would not want to go 56 because then i'd need a real short stem 
which IMO does not work for that bike..

the question is, and pardon if it was mentioned, but does Jay want drop 
bars or not? If not, well then yes, can go quite big as long as your boys 
dont hit the top tube

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 4:35:48 PM UTC-4, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Absolutely. There is no exact method for sizing a bike. Personal 
> preference plays a huge role. After going round and around about the whole 
> finding the "perfect" frame size...I have resigned myself to the whole F@#! 
> it get a close enough frame size, to which there are no major compromises 
> and it looks ok to my eye and shazam! Happiness and lots of bike riding 
> ensues!  Rather than the wring my hands and worry about a few mm here or 
> there and constantly kick myself for not having had bought the other size 
> frame camp. The "perfect" frame size or bike for that matter only exists in 
> our minds. And as always the question of perfect for what? But this is not 
> to say it isn't fun or worthwhile  to discuss what the perfect frame / bike 
> might be and why...Because we all know it is. :) But a suggestion was asked 
> for and usually any one person should be able to ride at least 3 different 
> frame sizes in 2cm incraments pretty happily. With the starting place for 
> that being saddle / pbh range ...becauae ya gotta start somewhere and it 
> was offered by the OP, which suggests it is an important sizing parameter 
> for him. I think that problems pop up when people want  or end up at the 
> opposite extremes / high bars and the smallest frame possible when the bike 
> is not designed for that. Then they get miffed and say all kinda bad stuff 
> about the bike and the person who recomended the size. With that said, back 
> to the question. A 58 would really seem to be the safest bet in this 
> situation and subsequently my recomendation based on info offered.  Jay 
> provides his pbh which would suggest that is what is important to him about 
> how  he sizes a bike. Had he offered torso length or reach numbers it might 
> have suggested different priorities size wise, maybe he has a long 
> torso...but the 58cm would prolly offer the most versatility for higher or 
> lower bars without extreme stems or spacer stack. The 56 and 60 will both 
> work but they will commit to a racier or comfort driven position. Which all 
> depends on info he knows that we dont. Therefore he can take the suggestion 
> FWIW and make a decision based on his priorities and hopefully feel a 
> little bit more comfortable about his purchase if he has to buy the bike 
> sight unseen. Which is the point of asking such a question...I think ;^)

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