I forgot an aside, worthy of another thread. Thus:

Am I alone in finding 50 mm, at least for 700C wheels, a sweet spot for
pavement and loose dirt? The F Freds measure 51 mm with my electronic
caliper, and while I do notice that 51 mm at 17/20 does not float as well,
nor roll as cush, as 15/18 and 65 mm (Big Apples; stouter, though still
supple sidewalls -- the beef in the BA is in the tread and lining), I also
notice that they track straighter through 2" of sand than 40-somethings --
I ride some of the same firmer bits on the Elk Passes, and while those are
surprisingly cushy for 28s, the 50s just feel right. With the F Freds, I
can ride anything I rode with the 65 mm Big Apples, albeit perhaps in the
deeper parts, with a bit more effort, and when I have to get off to push,
it's in places where 14 more mm wouldn't have let me ride, either.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice looking ride -- that's pretty much how I'd set up a bike for road
> use. The Matthews' bar is about even with saddle. And yet you find the
> springs do help. I'll have to try another Flyer, some day.
>
> Yesterday's ride on the Matthews, a bit over 25 miles, covered at least 22
> miles on dirt, say 3-4 of singletrack and 15 of pretty rough dirt and
> gravel; the remaining dirt miles on the wide, smoothish crusher fine
> "shoulders" of the paved bits -- Parks 'n' Rec were out improving the
> surfaces*. On the Conservancy access roads, there were plenty of high
> frequency and low amplitude bumps, including washboard. The 51 mm F Freds
> were at ~18/21, a good compromise for dirt and pavement.
>
> Although the Matthews is noticeably less jarring than the Fargo or the
> Redline Monocg 29er (now *there* was a frameset that could negate soft,
> 60+ mm tires!) I sometimes wonder if some butt suspension wouldn't be nice.
> OTOH, 2 lbs versus a bit more than half a lb -- that makes me pause. And, I
> after so many years, I have acquired the unthinking reflex of hoisting
> myself on my legs and loosening my grip when I see rough terrain. (Saddle
> is a later edition Flite, wide enough for my behind.)
>
> Now that Brooks is catering to the expensive crowd, why don't they put
> carbon fiber to real use and develop a sprung undercarriage using
> lightweight cf?
>
> * From a bit north of Coors and Montano to a bit south of Rio Bravo. I
> hear you can ride south until Isleta Pueblo land stops public access --
> about where I-25 curves west -- but I've not been that far. That's my next
> goal.
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm set up in kops on my Bleriot . You can see the the seatpost and the
>> way the saddle set up on it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/7023
>> 7737@N00/TnUUnm
>>
>> KOPS on Sam:  https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/TnUUnm
>>
>> Always perfect bounce from day one.
>> I wonder why they don't bounce for some people? Maybe there's enough
>> differences in the human body that the subtleties won't allow it to work
>> for some but they work for others? I don't know. Maybe I just have more
>> junk in the trunk ha ha Ha.
>>
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