PATRICK, I have these on several bikes, and they work very well -- stiff enough 
to do their job, but flexible enough to negotiate curbs, etc.  They hold up 
well in use. They look "used" almost right away, but at least in my experience 
never look trashed out. And the reflective material piece is VERY reflective. I 
like 'em. (But you've seen my bikes, which are doubtless on the "twee" (to use 
your word) side.

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On Nov 9, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Patrick Moore 
<bertin...@gmail.com<mailto:bertin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I see that Riv has one of those fancy, left-coast-type gussied up, pretty 
mudflaps made from effete cotton and leather -- probably voted for Hillary -- 
for $18. Good shape, though (mudflap, not Hillary). OTOH, Riv has the Longboard 
rubber mudflap in decent, middle-American black rubber, for $8.

I'm tempted to buy the Sackville one just 'cause it's so purty, but damned if 
I'm not afraid of being teased for it.

Seriously, how does one of these look after 100 miles of splash, mud, and 
slush? Like a tux worn too long away from the dry cleaner?

The Longboard one is a guaranteed performer, I'm sure, but I think that the 
Sackville one actually has a better shape, as far as I can tell -- the photos 
of the LB one aren't as detailed as I'd like to see.

Which one? This is for the '03's Berthoud fenders. The '03 is nice looking, but 
nothing on it chosen merely for pretty.

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