On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 3:49:03 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Continuing this aside: what exactly is the purpose of electric shifting? I > assume there is some benefit to someone besides the seller, since someone > or other has been trying to make it work since the mid or late '90s. Does > it make mis-shifts, which I assume (right? wrong?) are more common with > cables the smaller the gaps between cogs, less likely? >
What's the purpose of e-shifting?! Are you crazy?! Of course, its to sell more bikes! Come on, get with it! But seriously, the latest e-shifting is fast and reliable. Unlike the old Mavic Zap stuff from the 90s, this stuff really works. There's basically tiny computers controlling the shifting. Most people I know have Shimano ultegra di2 and love it. But the one guy with Sram etap loves it too and in fact, upgraded his second bike to it. The best thing about etap is there's no wires. So if you like your bike to look like a track bike with only brakes cables, then this is the system for you! In contrast, Shimano di2 does require wires, but many frames, especially carbon ones, are being designed to hide the battery and control boxes. Add in a Garmin to track everything and being able to upload your latest time and you're set! One interesting thing that I notice is you see with all these guys with major cross chain where you're in the big cog in the back and big chainring at the same time. Further, with 11 speeds, you can get 50/34 chainrings and 11-32 in the rear. So, you see guys riding in their 50t big ring and 32t rear cog, with no noise or protest from the system! With di2, there's no rubbing either as the FD "automatically" shifts to avoid any noise. Now is it good for the life of the chain? Who cares, everything is done effortlessly! If you don't have guys in your group with e-shifting, shame on you! No, seriously, go down to a LBS and check it out. Go to the big boys - Trek/Specialized/C'dale/Giant. You'll see the latest! The big thing in my group that got everyone drooling is etap with hydraulic disc brakes. Simply amazing....Good Luck! > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Yes, that happened to a woman on a ride I led a couple of weeks ago. Not >> a way to make me fall in love with that technology, unless there's a >> special use-case involved. Those stick them anywhere auxiliary shift >> buttons could be a godsend to someone with only one hand that works (and I >> have encountered such folks along the way) but certainly for me it's a >> solution that offers nothing whatsoever. >> >> On 02/27/2017 06:04 PM, Eric Norris wrote: >> >> I was on a ride last week when two guys on bikes rolled in to the coffee >> place. One was on a bike with electronic shifting. Halfway through a >> 40-mile ride, he was stuck in the small ring because the bike’s battery was >> low. Granted, he said he hardly ever has to charge the bike’s batteries, >> but my “old-fashioned” bikes with cable-actuated shifting will never have >> that problem. >> >> Disclaimer: I have plenty of electronics with me when I ride … just not >> shifters. If all my batteries died, my bike would still work. >> >> --Eric Norris >> campyo...@me.com <javascript:> >> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) >> >> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Brewster Fong <bfd...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> Yeah, my riding buddies all have the latest in bicycles. They're all >> drooling over disc brakes and e-shifting and if you don't have either, well >> watch out for all the death and destruction! >> >> So, I'm the guy with the "old bikes" in the group. Both of my bikes were >> both used - a 94-ish Calfee carbon bike and a 90-ish Litespeed Classic. I >> bought my Calfee used in 1997 and I believe its a 94 model. It is strong >> and I easily expect it to last another 20 years. My litespeed was picked up >> a few years ago for $400 and it is now my commuter with fenders and lights. >> Both are running Campy 9 speed, although I'm considering "upgrading" the >> Calfee to 11 speed as I would like to check out the Campy 3rd gen ergo >> levers which I call gumby hood. >> >> I'm old and fat, so I really not interested in the latest. But what's >> new....Good Luck! >> >> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 6:36:50 AM UTC-8, Addison wrote: >>> >>> I've had people assume my Riv is an "old" bike for a long time now but >>> yesterday when I was riding home I stopped to take a photo of the rushing >>> Truckee River in Reno and a gent paused to compliment me on my "beautiful >>> old bike." I just said thanks and didn't correct him. And then it >>> occurred to me that I shouldn't correct him because my Allrounder is going >>> on 18 years of age. Many miles but it looks sharp...I've taken care of it >>> through commutes and offroading and tours. Anyway, just ruminating...and >>> posting a couple pics. 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