I had to check out the red to see. Red seems to be new--like, the 650B Hunqa sizes and the 65 Atlantis. That's another Venn diagram overlap functional problem. If we had room and money we could have bikes in stock all the time, all sizes and models -- kind of like what Surly's like, I imagine--or any other big bike company. Our way is to break ourselves and risk a lot on one run of bikes/frames after another, and hope for the best. It's probably good for the models, because we don't commit to things we're not fully behind, but it's bad in other ways---
On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 2:27:17 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: > > Grant: > > While you're fielding questions, what is the significance of frame sizes > listed in red on the new geo charts? I realize they are new, but does this > indicate they will be the only ones offered in the future, with the black > ones as historical references? > > Doug Peterson > > On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 1:24:58 PM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: >> >> On the tube top question--- >> >> There is "on paper" length and "anatomical effect." On paper the Joe Ap >> is longer, but that means you ride a 9 instead of an 11 stem. And the >> higher bars possible with the Appa bring back them back toward you more and >> at the same time have a lengthening effect on your arms (see "Vitruvian >> man"). Finally — well, I actually kinda doubt that, but it's all fun anyway >> — the original Atlantis midsise small wheel was 26, and the Appa's is 650B, >> and when we came out with Atlantis, 35mm to 38mm tires were common on it, >> and now--the combo of 650+fatter in general, raises the requirement for >> longer front centers. As I like to say, "these things get ultramajorly >> thoughten about before they show up in steel!" >> But also yes, there has been an emotional and an actual shift away from >> locking into drops on a touring bike. Touring and generally useful bikes >> aren't anymore the poor kin of racing road bikes, and with so many good >> non-drop bar shapes out there, it's not necessary (tho still not stupid) to >> ride drops. Freedom from drops means freedom to design around the other >> good bars with grip areas for the most part behind the stem clamp, not in >> front of it, as on a drop. When you throw that into the pot, there's room >> to increase the bike's front wheelbase a bit, too, and adding a cm or even >> 3m to the tt is a good way to do that. If we had to make only one bike, >> it'd be the Appa--no question, for me. But for better or worse we have >> about 6 models. Wait till you see the Roadini. I think any of the latest >> Rosco Roadish bikes with tons of clearance and cantilever ride as well as >> any road bike and have tons of clearance, but we've wanted to do a cheaper >> version of the Roadeo for a while, and we're gonna do that this Spring or >> Summer. Sidepulls, 130 rear wheel, all the road stuff. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
