Jeff, the cracking nose on the Cambiums seems to be associated with the first production run according to the local shop dealer. All the ones they've sold the past year have been fine so far.
I tried a C17 and liked it pretty well. It wasn't as comfortable as my late 80s B17 Narrow (the thick leather version). The Cambiums do seem to run a bit narrower than the number would indicate compared to the B17. Maybe a C19 Carved would do the trick. The most compelling reason for me to get a Cambium is due to prodeal pricing. By all accounts over the years, you can't go wrong with a Rivet. Nor can I get a prodeal on one! However, in this case absolute comfort wins out. There is a reason you rarely ever see used Rivets for sale! That speaks volumes about their integrity and comfort. Cheers, Bill in Roswell, GA On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 10:03:08 AM UTC-5, Jeff wrote: > > I've not tried the Rivet Pearl. I've professed my love for the C17 carved > here and on the iBob list a few times. My previous saddle of choice was the > B17n (narrow) whereas the B17 was too wide, so, I'd say compare the widths > first with any other saddles you currently ride. I believe the C17 is a bit > narrower than the Pearl. If you're sensitive to width, the decision may be > made for you. > > After finding nirvana with the Cambium C17 carved, I have gone back and > carved one of my B17n's, and it's a better saddle now as well - the cutout > improves an already great saddled. > > So... cutout = good. If width for either = good for you, it comes down to > materials and/or construction maybe. > > I've found in my personal experience that the C17 carved flexes just > enough, just like a well broken in Brooks saddle - not an over-used > too-broken-in saddle. What the C17 doesn't do is flex or sag too much when > it gets wet from precipitation or from a long day or series of days of > being sweat upon. Sometimes, my B17n feels a bit saggy at the end of long, > hot days. When combined with my own fatigue, it can diminish my ride > enjoyment. I'd suspect that any leather saddle could behave in such a way - > at some point, too my wet = bad with leather saddles. > > I like that I don't have to think about precipitation at all with my C17. > I don't wear myself out thinking about such things with my leather saddles, > but I consider it and carry a saddle cover or shower cap for them when > there's chance of rain. > > I've heard feedback, on this list and iBob, that the C17 is prone to > cracking/splitting towards the nose of the saddle, near the frame support > there. I haven't experienced this at all, but it's possible that these have > a material durability problem. > > I have noticed what appears to be a decline in quality with Brooks leather > saddles over the past few years. If I were to look to purchase a leather > saddle, I'd look to the Rivet saddles, based on the positive feedback I've > seen here and on the iBob list. > > -Jeff > Silver Spring, MD > > > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Surlyprof <jmcc...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > wrote: > >> I need to get a new saddle and want to get one with a cutout. Narrowed >> it down to the Rivet Pearl and the Brooks C17 Carved. Anyone have any >> thoughts and opinions regarding the pros and cons of these saddles? Would >> love to get some personal experiences before I plunk down the cash. >> >> Thanks, >> John >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
