Ok, I just remembered the one thing I don't like about the Road Standard:
 the horizontal-ish dropouts.  Minor quibble though.

-Jim

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 68cm which I think is either a Road Standard or a Custom, either
> way, it conforms to Bruce's description...does downhill corners like it's
> on rails.  It's a joy to ride, and especially to bomb downhills with,
> practically begs to go faster. (disclaimer:  do so at your own risk)  Takes
> a load but isn't ideal for it.
>
> I have ridden it somewhere north of 20,000 miles (14,610 in completed,
> documented RUSA rides alone), still my favorite in the stable and the one
> that gets 95% of all usage.  Maybe 30,000 or 40,000, who knows, I am not
> that religious about documenting mileage.
>
> The only thing that would get it less mileage would be if I got a purpose
> built 650B frame, which I have considered from time to time.  I have also
> thought though of just dimpling the chainstays for 42mm tires (since it
> needs a respray anyway), getting a custom low to mid trail fork and rolling
> on with it.
>
> Decisions, decisions :)
> I worry about ruining the essence of the bike by modifying it, which is
> why I've left it alone so far.
>
> -Jim
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Bruce <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The road is a livelier frame (reynolds 753 w/531 forks)  with quicker
>> steering than the Ram (Mix of Japanese HT and non HT tubes)  that rides
>> like it's on rails around downhill curves. Both will carry a rear rack, but
>> the road is not intended for weight and the Ram is. I use it when I need a
>> rack and cargo space. If I could only keep one, it would be the Road, which
>> is an absolute joy to ride. I did decide between the Ram and the Saluki,
>> which I sold. Not enough difference, and Ram rides better, even though it
>> can't go as fat on the tires.
>> Was this any help?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* RichS <rshannon6...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:54 PM
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Reminder: Rivendell Road Standard FS
>>
>> Hi Bruce. Overlap among Riv models has been discussed lately so I'm
>> curious how much overlap there is between your Ram and the Road Std.? If I
>> had to guess I would say the Ram might have a little more carrying
>> capacity. Many thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 7:27:26 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>> The Road is an excellent long distance ride. I rode mine on yesterday's
>> local RUSA event and it was great all day. Smooth on the rough stuff,
>> climbs well, handles great. If you think about what a new frame only with
>> nice lugs and paint will cost, Eric's bike is a steal.
>>
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