To be specific, a Rivendell bicycle is an amazing device, being able to carry loads with ease, while not giving up a great feeling, fun ride. > On May 22, 2017, at 3:49 PM, dougP <dougpn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > John: > > A bicycle is such an amazing device. We consider "only about 30 lbs" to be a > moderate load. What else can easily carry more than it's own weight? > > Assuming that the 30 lbs is an occassional load like a lodging tour or an > S24O, and most of the time you're riding unloaded, my suggestion would be the > Supremes ride better than the Green Guards. But for double the money they > should do something. > > dougP > > On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 1:35:10 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote: > Doug, thanks for the reply. > Yeah, I’m sure the Plus Tours would feel awful sluggish to me. I’m not a > bruiser by any stretch. A loaded touring bike for me is only about 30 pounds > of gear, max, so I would not be interested in anything more stout than the > “regular old Marathon”. Even that might be unnecessary for my purposes. > > >> On May 22, 2017, at 12:48 PM, dougP <doug...@ <>gmail.com >> <http://gmail.com/>> wrote: >> >> John: >> >> No, I haven't tried the Green Guards. I have used the Plus Tour. It's even >> heavier & tougher. One flat in 6,000 miles on the rear & it was a big >> screw. I did notice a big improvement in ride & performance when I went >> back to Supremes. I think the Plus Tour is about 2X the weight of the >> Supreme. >> >> One of my touring buds uses what is probably the Green Guard. He refers to >> them as "regular old Schwalbes, $35 each". He gets few flats & they last a >> long time. He does over 12,000 miles per year. >> >> IME, once the bike is loaded up, I don't notice as much difference in tires. >> But without a load, I can definitely notice differences in ride quality & >> performance such as getting up to speed from a stop. >> >> dougP >> >> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 8:37:59 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote: >> Doug, I'm curious if you've ever tried your Atlantis with Marathon Green >> Guards. Wondering how they compare to the Supremes. On paper, the Supremes >> rein supreme, but in real world conditions I'd be curious. Of course they >> are heavy, but to paraphrase Grant: "With weight comes good things." I know >> over at the blog "Cycling About", the author did a tire rolling comparison >> (drum rollers, not real world) and puncture comparison, and the Marathon >> Green Guard came out very well indeed - especially considering the price per >> mile. For a true commuting/touring tire, it looks to be extremely long >> lasting. >> >> J. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 8:12:19 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: >> Isaac: >> >> Congratulations on having excellent taste in bikes. Be sure to post photos >> when you've rec'd the bike. >> >> One of the many beauties of the Atlantis is the ability to fit all sorts of >> big chubby tires. While 29+ may be pushing it, for your intended purpose >> you have tons of good choices. >> >> My personal bias is to Schwalbe because I hate flats. I've been pleased >> with the 40 mm Marathon Supremes on my 58 cm Atlantis, having used them for >> many years. When I was doing more touring (5-6k miles per year) I would >> only get a flat or 2 per year. Rear tires lasted a year & fronts a bit >> longer. I'm doing about 3,000 miles year now so rarely deal with a flat. I >> also don't insist on getting the last mile out of a tire. >> >> I've also tried the Marathon Mondials. They give better traction off >> pavement, at a penalty in ride & weight. >> >> Others have used a wide variety of tires for similar uses so you'll no doubt >> get plenty of responses with personal use information. Compass, Soma, et al >> have all been used with good result. The trade-off, as always, is puncture >> resistance and ride vs life span and flat resistance. You may end up with >> your own tire inventory. It's a harmless indulgence. Enjoy. >> >> dougP >> >> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, Birdman wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am beyond thrilled to say that I just put a deposit down on a 64 Atlantis >> with a double tt! Now I get to enjoy many months of anticipation while >> fantasizing about bike builds... >> >> Speaking of which, I always rode 32mm pasellas on my Quickbeam as well as on >> my current touring bike, because of its relatively narrow crown and chain >> stays. The option of running larger tires on the Atlantis is part of its >> appeal for me, but I don't really know where to begin. >> >> Any tire size/brand recommendations for commuting and touring with some >> gravel and dirt roads? I know it all comes down to compromises and personal >> preferences, but where should I start? >> >> Thanks. I haven't posted here in many years. 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