It would be nicer if they were donated, yes, but I can imagine why BG would 
be somewhat annoyed after coming to the realization that spending most of 
his life as a (really good) framebuilder and $2.50 is worth a cup of drip 
coffee at Starbucks.

-david parsons

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 11:21:45 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> If he can’t sell the bikes, he should consider donating them. There are 
> probably a few tall people out there in need of transportation who could 
> use a serviceable bicycle. Much better than having them scrapped.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com <javascript:>
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On May 23, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Evan Baird <vanst...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> We've got a group of people together to discuss the best framework to use. 
> If you have experience setting up a nonprofit, coop or b corp I encourage 
> you to send me your email and I'll add you to the group. If you think Bruce 
> is messing around maybe you're right, or maybe you don't actually know him 
> very well. The way he put it to me is he can't ride them, so if nobody 
> wants them badly enough to pay up then fuck it. I honestly don't care what 
> happens as long as Bruce gets what he deserves, which is respect, dignity 
> and a comfortable retirement. If you have 250,000 I would say it's a 
> bargain.
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:37:16 AM UTC-7, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>> My response to this on the Boblist (for those who don't follow both): 
>>
>> Evan, 
>>
>> Do you have an actual business plan beyond hoping others give you enough 
>> $ to buy his bikes? Aside from his cool bike collection and the relatively 
>> minimal value of his tools, the value of the business IS Bruce Gordon. He 
>> has been struggling for the past few years -- what makes you think that 
>> once he is gone folks will flock to learn how to build bikes from a 
>> "museum" with his name on it but with no other connection? Who are your 
>> master builder/instructors? How many people do you imagine would pay to see 
>> his collection? How much would it cost you to keep the doors open? 
>>
>> Your claim that he is threatening to recycle all of his collection 
>> instead of sell it piece by piece is indicative of the problem. That's 
>> irrational -- if he really was so low energy, he could engage someone else 
>> to sell it for him. If he cannot even manage that what sort of 
>> support/guidance will he provide as you attempt to succeed at pushing a 
>> BG-less BG Cycles? 
>>
>> What happens to the $$ you are raising if you are not successful in 
>> getting the $250,000 you're asking for? You're using GoFundMe, which allows 
>> withdrawals of any and all monies collected, regardless of success of 
>> drive. If you don't raise the full amount, will you and Norma keep the 
>> funds raised? Refund your donors? Donate the funds to BG? Are you using an 
>> escrow service? 
>>
>> As you plan on being a museum/educational facility, have you looked into 
>> the laws associated with doing so? Will you be a 501(C)3? How will you be 
>> structured? You're making a big ask -- perhaps you'd like to share more on 
>> your plans and what you've developed so far. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, Il
>>
>> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:40:21 PM UTC-5, Evan Baird wrote:
>>>
>>> Cross Post from BOB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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