I guess I will throw in that comparisons should probably take into account the setup and the role the rider is/was looking for. An Atlantis for one person becomes an off-road capable cruiser, for someone else a long distance tourer, drops for some, albatross or ??? for others.
My Cheviot is fendered, smooth tired (Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, 40mm), has somewhat upright bars (MAP/Ahearnes, 570mm, the narrower ones), and is a mostly city/town based, some would say elegant, bike - though Cheviots definitely are capable of more. I will say the Cheviot gets the most admiring comments per mile than any bike I have ever owned, maybe tied with a Brompton I had. People immediately recognize it as an almost archetypal bike, old, refined, French, maybe British... And I smile every time I ride it... The Appaloosa is capable of larger and chunkier tires (currently BG RnR's 43mm and could certainly go larger), is not currently fendered (though it could be), has somewhat more aggressive, wider bars (Nitto Bullmoose) and is set up as something like a mountain bike for grownups. I rode it on a ~35 mile group ride this last weekend and it did absolutely great, comfortable and fast enough for the mostly relaxed group, perfect for any gravel or dirt found. My position on the Joe is slightly more aggressive and that helps with the winds we can have in NW Illinois. I have to laugh a bit when people look at the Joe, and really like it but have no idea what to say. It just brings together things people had not imagined being together - comfortable, touring, mountain bike, basket, two top tubes, uhhhh, what? And I smile every time I ride it... I have always wanted an Atlantis, maybe a Hunq, but if it was an Atlantis, I would probably build it as a drop bar bike, long distance tourer mode though, again, there is absolutely nothing keeping it from being something else. And I know I would love it too! But this has to stop, it just has to... :>) The Cheviot is limited, if you want to be able to do true rough stuff, by max tire size (with caliper brakes). The Joe and Atlantis not so much (with v-brakes or cantilevers). This is a broad stroke but if I knew I wanted a drop-bar bike, the Atlantis would top the list (of the three). All things are possible but, well.... the Atlantis wins (for drops) given normal dimensions and expectations. That said, I am almost officially old, certainly not fast, and am now a convert to more upright bars, so the Joe/Cheviot combo is really working for me, though I still have other bikes and have one (last!) 650B road bike project in mind. Apologies for all the words! Did not mean to write this much.... All I know is when I ride the Joe, I have great fun and cannot imagine selling it. When I ride the Cheviot, I have great fun and absolutely cannot imagine selling it either. Everything else in my life is up for debate but somehow, some way, not those two bikes. Enough! Hope the random comments help... It will be interesting to hear other comparisons. Bob On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 7:59:24 PM UTC-5, tc wrote: > > Interesting, Bob. Does anyone else here have both a Cheviot and a Joe? I > would be interested in others' comparisons - thanks! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
