+1 on the shims being a pain to install. It's possible to get them in without 
scratching the bars, but it takes some doing. I've never tried the brass 
material, but now that I know it exists I may give it a shot.

P.S. I have a set of 26>25.4 Nitto shims. I you need them, I will sell them for 
less than I paid.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On May 29, 2017, at 12:43 PM, dougP <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Sheldon:
> 
> My experience is same as Rene's.  My work around was using only one piece if 
> the Nitto shim.  While mechanically this may be incorrect, it's been in there 
> for a few years with no problem.  Bob's suggestion of brass shim stock is 
> better.  The Nitto stuff is I think stainless steel.  
> 
> If you are planning to disassemble the bike for shipping, it's a lot easier 
> to remove a quill stem.  That leaves your handlebar set-up as-is.  Just wrap 
> a bit of tape around the stem at the headset & the re-install is simple.
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:16:19 AM UTC-7, Sheldon Rothenberg wrote:
>> I seek  wisdom on the mysteries of shims. I get that shims are a device that 
>> enable one to use different dimensioned handlebars for your bike. Does using 
>> one compromise safety or integrity? Would using one make it harder for a 
>> klutzy non-mechanic to remove handlebars for shipping and reinstall as in 
>> packing a bike for shipment and unpacking for the ride?
>> 
>> The context is my preparing for an overseas bike camping trip. The moustache 
>> handlebars (handlbar mustache shaped)that are on my Rivendell All-Rounder 
>> are not very compatible with my Ortlieb handlebar bag. In looking for 
>> alternative handlebars that would give more clearance and  have slight drops 
>>  in-between road and mountain bars, I  found different but suitable bars 
>> from two sources. A Nitto model sold by Rivendell would require a shim. A 
>> one sold and made by Velo-Orange would not. In other words, should I make 
>> shim or non-shim a deciding factor or is it irrelevant in ease of packing 
>> and unpacking?
>> 
>> 
>> Shelley
> 
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