I think it works well for me and I actually worked backwards and got my PBH 
from my saddle height.  I have a hard time measuring PBH due to obesity and 
my wife and I measured it at 83cm (5'11").  I can straddle an 84cm S.O. 
bike and still bend my knees a bit so I know 83cm isn't accurate.  From my 
SH of 75cm, I assume my PBH is 86'ish cm.  With slightly thicker soled 
shoes, I would go with a S.H. of 76 cm.  Luckily, the 86'ish estimate gives 
me clear size recommendations on the Rivs I would want to own.  54 Hunq (53 
is probably an option now),  55 Appaloosa and 52 Bombadil.   



On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 6:20:50 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height 
> being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for 
> the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks. 
> Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather 
> is warm, I have been riding in Bedrock Sandals. Because the soles are so 
> thin, I had to lower my saddle a bit. I've also been dealing with some knee 
> pain and came across these articles: 
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/02/seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be/
>  and 
>
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/addendum-to-seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be-2/.
>  
> I think a lot of what he says is going on for me: knee and back pain, 
> tilted hips, pedaling toes-down, etc. I went for a ride this morning and 
> stopped to lower my saddle a few times. No new knee pain (same as before), 
> and now I feel like I can pedal with a more level foot. My legs are still 
> pretty far extended at the bottom of the stroke, and I can't reach them at 
> the bottom with my heels (another possibly flawed guide for setting saddle 
> height). When I got home I measured the saddle height at 73cm. I know the 
> Bedrock sandals are thin, but I doubt they're 2cm thinner than my clipless 
> pedals and shoe combo. Maybe the additional sole flex makes them 
> effectively even thinner? 
>
> Chris
>

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