Between the 54 Hunqapillar and the 55 Appaloosa, which ride did you like better? I have a 22" 1984 Trek 830 like yours and I'm debating between these two Rivs for a future purchase. I expected the Appaloosa to be more like the 830 but you reference the Hunqapillar being more similar.
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 6:04:27 PM UTC-5, Michael Morrissey wrote: > > Hey! Thanks for reading it! > > The Appaloosa and the Clem were pretty similar, but there were two big > differences: the handlebars and the sizing. > > The Appaloosa comes in more sizes. The Clem is basically the first > Rivendell to be built to a price point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I > think they said they wanted to stop recommending people buy Surlys if they > wanted a cheaper bike than a Rivendell. They succeeded by doing this > incredibly scrappy move: manufacturing only three sizes. I'm 6 feet tall > with a PBH of 86cm (if I remember correctly) and I felt like the Appaloosa > fit me better. The 59 Clem was wayyy toooo big, and I liked the 52 Clem, > but it had 650B wheels and I sort of had my mind set on 700 x 2.0 tires for > my bike. > > My first impression of the Bosco bars on the Clem was that they were too > much of a beach cruiser bar. I commute year round in NYC in heavy traffic, > so beach cruiser isn't exactly ideal for me. I liked the Choco-moose ones > because they had the classic "sit up and beg" position, but also the reach > forward was like riding the tops of drop bars. I suppose you can lean > forward and grab the middles of the Bosco bars, but again this was just a > brief ride. I actually still want to try the Bosco bars on my vintage > mountain bike and see how they would change that bike. > > Also, I bought the Appaloosa because they were sold out of Clems and I got > excited and really wanted a bike! If they had a Clem in the 55cm size, I > would have bought that. > > I test rode the Cheviot primarily to try the Albatross bars. The Cheviot > has centerpulls, and I knew I wanted fatter tires, so I think that's a big > difference between bikes. I didn't want a step-through bike. The Cheviot > had the best paint though - the swampy green looks AMAZING in person. It > is so much nicer in person than in photos. The Cheviot doesn't have the > long chainstays like the Clem and Appaloosa. The Cheviot was nice, but it > felt like a normal bike; whereas the Appaloosa is definitely funky, is > definitely something different, and has a very unusual alchemy of > measurements that combines to a really special bike. > > m > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 9:25:41 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Michael -- thanks for this writeup. I was particularly struck by this: >> >> * I rode around their parking lot, doing laps around their building. I >> really liked the bike. It felt nimble, like my LeMond cyclocross bike, but >> more stable. I expected to dislike the handlebars, but in a snap judgment >> decided I liked them.* >> >> All the positive reviews about the Appaloosa are making my defenses start >> to crumble. I would very much like to try one out. I am more skeptical of >> sweep back bars, but those too get much praise. >> >> Question: can you elaborate about the difference in handling and feel >> between the Appaloosa and the Clem and the Chevs? I realize that this is >> first impressions, but those sometimes reveal real qualities. >> >> (Aside: I wonder, if I went all weight weenie, if I could get an >> Appaloosa down to UCI minimum ...) >> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Michael Morrissey <michaelg...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> I wrote a bit more about my new Rivendell on my blog: >>> >>> http://thedayweneverwenthome.blogspot.com/2016/06/riding-first-fifty-miles-fast-and-free.html >>> >>> It also includes my $0.02 on test riding other Rivendells in Walnut >>> Creek! >>> >>> Thank you for the kind words of encouragement with the bike! >>> >>> - michael >>> >>> >>> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:37:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Morrissey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A_HSaKdJZ3M/V18Vp9Gt7eI/AAAAAAAAAvA/zY_fKmhjuOk1CEVzQ7FAB23IT7LazL8ZACKgB/s1600/IMG-20160612-01773.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YSLptbPeHDA/V18VoiIiNpI/AAAAAAAAAvA/oEL3JqXZP_cWj9VkJxQ2oWoVcUAepluVgCKgB/s1600/IMG-20160601-01754.jpg> >>>> I finally got my Appaloosa together! I'm really enjoying this bike! >>>> The main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height. It's >>>> so >>>> stable and comfy. I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some >>>> from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the >>>> LBS! I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going >>>> to go fatter soon! After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled >>>> to have one! >>>> >>>> Parts list: >>>> Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers >>>> Sugino x White Industries cranks >>>> VP Vice pedals >>>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!) >>>> Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter >>>> Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars >>>> >>>> m >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >> ************************************* >> *************************************************** >> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a >> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and >> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu >> >> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the >> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto >> >> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart >> >> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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