My Riv (97 Road Standard) had Phil hubs (pre-"Rivy"), and I rebuilt the rear dishless with a 650b Synergy OC rim.
But, I ended up selling off that wheelset to a list-member because of the "freewheel issue". Aka, there are few freewheels available, with ever-dwindling gear selection and quality. I used one of the DNP Epoch freehwheels with good results, but I convinced myself that those wouldn't be around forever. The Shimano 13-28 and 14-34 freewheels (and their clones) *will* be around forever, I don't doubt that. But I don't like either of those gear ranges. Don't get me wrong, you could easily buy a 20-year supply (which would be, maybe 3 or 4?) of your favorite DNP or IRD freewheels and be set for a long time. And with Phil FW hubs, bearing replacements are cheap and easy (they take a very commonly available size). But, I used it as an excuse to build a new set with a dynamo and a freehub, and sold the Phils to a new home (with new bearings, of course). And I love my 3 x 10 with an 11-32 cassette and road triple. It's a personal choice, with good reasons in favor of each case. But no one can deny that the market has spoken on freewheels. On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Belopsky <belopolsky.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > "unless you want to keep a vintage bike using vintage components, I can't > see the sense in buying a new freewheel hub or wheelset today." > This discussion happens every time freewheels are brought up. > The appeal seems to be dishless rear wheels..I suppose there are other > ways to do this but I dunnos > > On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 4:46:27 AM UTC-5, Nick Payne wrote: >> >> I've had a Phil Wood freewheel tandem hub give up on me. We were half way >> up a hill and the pedals started spinning without the bike going forward. I >> was cursing (as I initially thought) the crappy Suntour tandem freewheel, >> but when we finally got home and I removed the wheel from the frame, I >> found that there was nothing wrong with the freewheel - it was the threaded >> part of the hub that had given way. I unspoked the wheel and sent the hub >> back to Phil Wood, and they replaced it without any fuss, but I looked >> around at what was available, and rebuilt the wheel using a Bullseye tandem >> hub instead. At the time (about 35 years ago) the Phil hubs were not user >> serviceable when the bearings needed replacing, whereas the Bullseye hubs >> were, and (particularly under the stresses of tandem use) the sealed >> bearings only ever lasted a season or two before starting to feel rough. >> >> I still have those Bullseye hubs in service, but unless you want to keep >> a vintage bike using vintage components, I can't see the sense in buying a >> new freewheel hub or wheelset today. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
