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> On Nov 29, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Nels Sorenson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Here are some updated pics of current iteration Grilver Roadini.  I'm liking 
> the Berthoud saddle and wider tires/rims.  Ride is smoother, less nervous and 
> still fast with the Jack Browns.
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:34:46 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>> It looks like Centaur is new this summer, so maybe it's just not widely 
>> available yet.
>> 
>> I can't see myself buying new Campagnolo, but I respect their quality and 
>> that they keep making a couple silver gruppos.  My Riv (97 Road Standard) is 
>> still on its original Racing Triple BB and crankset (with newer rings).
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Belopsky <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The Centaur, that is. Veloce 10speed is still relatively easy to find, and 
>>> the Potenza group as well.
>>> Veloce, for instance: 
>>> https://www.raceviewcycles.com/campagnolo-veloce-groupset-2015-10-speed-silver?language=en&currency=USD
>>> 
>>> Sometime last winter/spring/summer I saw the Veloce groupset for ~370 which 
>>> was a great deal IMO
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