Interestingly, I also started out fixed with about a 63" high gear 
(40x17/19 dingle with 170 cranks and 700x32) and also quickly ramped up to 
70" by increasing chainrings to 42t, then 44t.  I'm in central NJ and 63" 
feels great in my local park (expansive network of flattish trails right 
outside my neighborhood) but once I get out on the roads and venture 
further away from my usual leisure routes and on more rolling terrain it 
feels way too low with too much spinning for my taste.

Starting with 63" was more a result of just having the 40t 170 crank and 
wanting a dingle to start.  17-19 was the smallest Surly dingle cog 
available and a perfect match to the available WI Eno 17-19 freewheel.

I've messed around with this gearing quite a bit the past couple years and 
more recently divided the fixed cog and freewheel between two different 
wheelsets and replaced the 170 crank with a 172.5 39t I scored in a trade 
and running this with the WI Eno 17/19 for approx. 61-62" high which has 
felt fine while freewheel only on my recent rides.  

When I convert back to fixed (Still deciding which of 3 frames will get 
exclusive winter duty this year) I'll go with the Surly 17/19 cog paired 
with the original 170t double crank and 44/46 chainrings for approx. 63" 
low and "72-73" high to get the best of both worlds.

If I had a Quickbeam with the long, angled rear ends I'd consolidate back 
to one wheelset with the matching 17/19 fixed/free flip flop but use an 
"Inverse Double Dingle" set up I previously tested by installing the larger 
of 2 chainrings on the INSIDE and the smaller chainring on the OUTSIDE of 
the double crank since the fixed cog sits further inboard of the hub vs the 
thicker WI freewheel so their chainline is actually off between the two 
sides and this would allow higher fixed gearing and lower freewheel gearing 
with the same cogs in back but cleaner chainline in each with the preferred 
chainring size.

I came up with this after learning about the chainline difference between 
the surly cog and ENO freewheel the first time I tried a 40/42 x 17/19 
dingle drivetrain.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville, NJ



On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 11:25:16 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:

> Ian, unsolicited advice (I'm not a Patrick) but ...
>
> Gearing, particularly fixed gear gearing, is very particular to the rider. 
> How strong are you, what cadences are you comfortable with, etc.
> The best way to get a handle on where to start is to pay attention to what 
> gears you use on your multi-speed bike, and try putting it in one gear and 
> leave it there for a while. Also accept the idea that in time you will 
> likely end up with a collection of rings and cogs, which can be a good 
> thing and not really all that expensive as bike fetishes go.
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 12:38:20 PM UTC-8, Ian A wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> Slight thread drift:
>>
>> Was the ramp up in gear inches from 67 to 71 and 76 due to an increase in 
>> strength/familiarity with riding fixed? Or was it the result of trial and 
>> error.
>>
>> I'm planning a fixie build, once the Christmas season passes and finances 
>> settle, and I'm wondering about my best gearing options off the bat. I live 
>> in a relatively flat city, that has a few noticeable acute climbs (river 
>> valley topography).
>>
>> Also, it looks like there are more options in the 3/32 chain width 
>> standard for cogs. Can I get away with using 8 speed chain rings, or is 
>> that asking for derailment issues?
>>
>> Thanks for any insights
>> IanA
>>
>>

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