Putting a feeler out as I try to work through a poor man's QB type build.
Hope this isn't too much off topic... but build will include several Riv
items and likely either RM016 Moustache or RM013 dirt drops with 10cm dirt
drop stem, Tektro r559 brakes, and more.
I'm dealing with a Raleigh frame with typical Raleigh threaded BB. I have
a spare cup and cone BB scavenged from a trashed old Raleigh 10sp that
installed easily but turns out the spindle is too short to match my spare
46t Raleigh crank (scavenged from a different frame and lost in a prior
game of musical cranks.) The 46/49 double from the 10sp had been installed
on a 3 speed rebuild with that 3 speed's original spindle and before I go
down the cotter removal rabbit hole to free up that 46/49 double I'm
thinking I may instead try to do one of the Sheldon Brown suggested mix n
match square taper upgrades. So I'm on the hunt for a JIS square taper
spindle for 73mm English shells to pair with the Raleigh BB cups that could
allow me to try one of two available JIS cranks.... unless anyone has a VO
threadless cartridge BB or Phil BB with Raleigh rings they are looking to
I have Sakae SX 170mm and Ritchey 177.5 JIS cranks (NOS, scored from Riv a
while back) both with 110bcd and a bunch of 110bcd rings I'd love to
use instead of continuing to deal with cotters but have no remaining bike
budget to buy a new BB at this time (and I missed the boat on a $30 VO sale
of 107 threadless that now shows sold out.) Haven't had a chance to scour
the bins at a co-op/bike church near my office yet but hoping to do
so later this or next week. Guessing they may have a cotter press there
(or just lots of experience whacking them out) since they work on a ton of
old bikes but I'm beginning to think updating to square taper will serve me
well going forward if this project turns into a keeper.
If I understand correctly I'll still need different sized bearings (6mm as
mentioned in Sheldon's Raleigh articles) if going JIS cup and cone spindle
route so everything lines up better with the off spec bearing tracks of JIS
spindle and Raleigh cups. Only spare cup and cone JIS spindles I have are
I suppose a Phil BB with Raleigh rings is likely the ideal upgrade but not
only is this the most costly, it additionally requires a Phil tool which I
don't have (or shop labor for a shop that has a Phil tool and this isn't
really that kind of build anyway... but if anyone has Phil BB with Raleigh
rings plus a Phil tool available for trade maybe we could work something
I guess what I'm really trying to say is that a VO threadless cartridge is
probably the simplest and most straightforward option but I'm open
to the alternatives.
It's already taken me over a year to get this far on the build and I'm
trying to avoid rushing anything at this point. Hoping to work this out
methodically and with little to no additional expense... and I have a stash
of parts that won't make it onto this next build and I'm willing to trade
and open for discussion.
Oh, right... spindle length: I think 107, 110, 113 should all likely work
Ritchey cranks are 110/74 triple and I know they normally take really wide
spindles but I've tested these as a double (single plus guard) on a 107/68
and had a good chainline for a single speed.
The Sakae SX double was previously used on a 113/68 and matched up pretty
well with the same SS wheel and dos eno fw.
Haven't taken full inventory of all spare stuff yet but here are most items
that could probably be put on the trading block. Not listing prices since
I'm not yet looking to sell anything... some of these have been put on hold
for back-burner projects but I think I could let some go to help move
this one along.
VO Cigne Stem - 9cm - high polish - 31.8 - scratch/dent from their initial
batch but still in great shape with only minor blemishes.
Soma Highrider Threadless adapter (looong quill for using threadless stems)
Bontrager alloy - 9/8" threadless stem - 25.4 clamp - 120mm - 10deg rise -
2-bolt - black
Easton alloy - 9/8" threadless - 31.8 clamp - 90mm 6deg rise - 4-bolt -
44cm Giant drops - Black alloy - 31.8 - takeoffs from a friends CX bike
that went with a flat bar conversion. Shape of the drops just don't work
Nitto RM-014f Dirt Drops - 52cm end to end - 31.8 - originally bought
thinking they were more like a 31.8 version of RM013's. These have much
more flare and not as useful ramps. Used briefly then went another
direction. Still have another frame they may work out on with the VO Cigne
stem and Big Dummy fork but it's really too small a frame and low priority
at this point.
Tektro TRP RRL - black on black (also have 2nd set of silver on black
but currently installed on something but... if black vs silver levers is a
deal breaker/deal maker I could work something out.)
Shimano CX50 Canti brakes - one wheel's worth - NIB
Tektro RL341 - short reach - Brake lever
Tektro v-brake/long pull drop bar levers - forget the model name/# at the
Tange 26" MTB Cromoly Fork - 1" threaded - 200mm steerer - ISO 26.4
crownrace - Black - bought NOS from Bruce Gordon a while back but just
never got around to installing on an old rigid frame.
Surly Big Dummy - 9/8" threadless - 425mm axle to crown - Black - steerer
still full length but used and star nut installed.
Rivendell SimpleOne fork - 238mm steerer - 1" threaded - ISO 26.4 crownrace
- unpainted - installed as a dry fit but never used since the intended
frame broke (cracked seatstay.)
Schwinn road fork: 1" threaded From 1987 Traveler (from same frame meant
for the SimpleOne fork) - JIS 27.0 crownrace ~238mm threaded steerer.
Maybe some shifting bits (Paul thumbies + Silver adapters, misc front/rear
derailers) and some racks (Nitto 32f mini, Wald Woody rear)
Thank you and no photos available right now but could provide off list upon
request of any interested items.
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