# Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 62-65cm Riv frame

```...and, apparently, on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142718687948?vectorid=229466&lgeo=1&item=142718687948&rmvSB=true```
```
Kevin Lindsey
Alexandria, VA
USA

On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 5:33:58 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, a lovely 62 cm Hunqapillar just showed up on
> Craigslist:
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-hunqapillar-bicycle/6527315651.html
>
> All the best,
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
> USA
>
> On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 10:56:37 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:
>>
>> A 62 cm Saluki would feel way smaller than a 64 cm Sam. There is at least
>> a 4 degree difference in the amount that the top tube slopes up from seat
>> lug to head lug, with Sam yielding a much higher handlebar. The horizontal
>> lengths of top tube would be very different as well.
>>
>> Approximately speaking, there are two families of Riv geometry, the
>> almost level top tube (about 2 degrees) family and the expanded family
>> (with about 6 degree upward slope of top tube.)
>>
>> This often means that if a frame in the former family fits well and its
>> size is the number N in centimeters, the nominal size that would fit well
>> in the latter family can often be something like N - 3 or N - 4.
>>
>> According to this logic, a person comfortable on a 62 cm Saluki might
>> feel like a 64 cm Sam is something like 5 cm or so bigger than he is used
>> to.
>>
>> -Jim W.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Dave Johnston <jdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 62cm Saluki on ebay, but thats pretty close to the Sam in function.
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/173206850815?ul_noapp=true
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 11:57:14 PM UTC-5, Reid Echols wrote:
>>>
>>> I love my 64cm Sam, but have been curious about trying another Riv.
>>> Maybe an Appaloosa? A quickbeam? A road? One of those Roscos?
>>>
>>> In any case, let me know if youâ€™re looking to sell something tall and
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Reid in Austin
>>
>>
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