hey weth, if you search through the riv archives, there's a mention to the 
effect that the black color, after a very brief run, was being changed by 
the supplier of the canvas to a dark greenish, grayish color, which is 
probably what's on ebay. good luck with the black.  tom

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 7:23:53 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention. 
> I really can't tell if it is soiled green or faded black, and I have 
> message the seller but have not heard back.  
> I appreciate all those keeping a look out for me for the elusive black 
> saddlesacks in medium or large.
> With thanks,
> Erl
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:23:42 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure this one is just soiled green. 
>> On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>>> This looks black to me -
>>> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222867078150

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