The thread on that bag is black too. Sure seems like a faded black bag to 

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 12:46:11 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
> Bill,
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I revisited the Flickr stream that I linked to 
> in the 3rd post of this thread and found this: 
> Which seems to show a metal badge on a black bag. So maybe zipper color is 
> a clue?  Did all colors have black zippers?  All current models seem to on 
> the Riv website.
> Thanks again,
> Erl 
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 1:28:17 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>> The metal badge should be a clue.  To the best of my knowledge, all the 
>> Saddlesacks that came with the metal badge were the olive color.  I recall 
>> black, but I think it was after they moved to cloth badges.  
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 4:23:53 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>>> Thanks for bringing this to my attention. 
>>> I really can't tell if it is soiled green or faded black, and I have 
>>> message the seller but have not heard back.  
>>> I appreciate all those keeping a look out for me for the elusive black 
>>> saddlesacks in medium or large.
>>> With thanks,
>>> Erl
>>> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:23:42 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure this one is just soiled green. 
>>>> On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>>>>> This looks black to me -

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