but I do remember them pinging when I had them loose between bikes

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
> and of course that is exactly the credit I give for mine having zero 
> tinniness.  They've been shaped between two bikes, so they don't have any 
> external pull on them anywhere - so non-stressed, if I release the 
> set-screws on the stays, they don't move - 
> the most solid mountings I can give them, vibration damping every place I 
> can place it  
> <https://imgur.com/8QZZu2u.jpg> <https://imgur.com/O10B0QK.jpg>  
> maybe the flutes in my fenders are the difference - you tap them even with 
> a metal object, and they go whump

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