About the Banana Sack, just an opinion : 1. Sway is often an unnecessary concern. There is a difference between an "on the bike" problem and an "in the head theoretical" one.
2. Security is good. The least secure mount, ironically, is the original intended mount, on the saddle loops. Then the Bsack's at its most horizontal. Even then, it's 100 percent secure when closed, and probably 95 percent secure when you shamefull fail to close it right, when the flap's just flapping free. You can make it 99.googolplex secure with a free-flapping flap if you push a bandana down on top of your BananaLoad and use the elastic stuff under the flap (to hold the banandana in place). Then only neutrinos can escape its clenched maw. The original bag of this type, made in France by Gilles Berthoud, was made as a saddle bag. Gilles is a master bag designer, a bicycle rider, and the design was little-to-notatall changed from its first public use. We copied that with our first version (which we called the Banana Bag) in the early 2000s, and no problems there, either. 3. The BananaSack, tho, mounts equally well or maybe 2 percent even better to the handlebar. That's thanks to Roman, I think, who suggested the new and embarrassingly obvious solution of two separate straps, like saddlebags have. Mounted on the front, the Bsack is nearly vertical. I can access everything in it while riding, and on a road (not a trail) it's not even necessary to close it with the miraculous toggle. 3. It mounts wonderfully on the sides of baskets. 4. The elastic thing makes it easy to overfill. 5. The fore-and-aft slots (one has a stiffener) are good for phones, tire levers, flat stuff. Bags should be easy to use on and off the bike. The mouth of the BananaSack is like the mouth of a largemouth bass, ready to engulf anything that comes its way, with no buckles or zippers or roll-top weatherproofing to mess with. It's not waterproof when submerged (like the bass it mimics!), but it'll handle an apocalyptic rain, and if you doubt that, you can stuff your stuff in a Target bag before putting it in. It's not the bag for everybody and every use, but as handy day-bags go, it's where we want it to be. There are lots of nice bags of about the same size out there. It's hard to go wrong these days. Yay! On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Shoji Takahashi <shoji.takaha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lum Gim Fong, > Staying in the Riv family, if the banana sax is not quite large enough, > I'd recommend the Saddlesack Small. > > Shoji > Arlington MA > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 10:01:12 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> The Pika is a pretty good design. No sway; rolls up compactly when >> carrying little, but expands amazingly when completely filled; I've carried >> surprisingly large grocery loads in mine. I did sell it because I found >> other bags better for my use, but for minimalist, non-supported, and >> non-sway saddle-attached carriage, that and the Viscacha are wonderful. The >> downside is that, when you fill it up completely, you have all your load >> stuffed into a long, narrow tunnel, so this isn't the best bag for frequent >> and rapid access to contents. >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 3:20 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> FWIW, This prolly doesn't fit the "look" you seem to prefer, but for a >>> rock solid no-sway saddle bag the Revelate Pika to work very well. This is >>> Revelate's "small" version, the Viscacha is even larger capacity. I had >>> the original Banana bag years ago and ended up selling it because of the >>> sway and I prefer no thigh contact with bags at all. I tried various ways >>> to minimize the sway and rub but it was a venture in futility. Sure, it >>> "looked" great, but frankly... so what, and to whom ? The Pika also >>> engulfs a Banana bag capacity holding 6-12 liters. It ranges in size by >>> rolling up the open end as you need it. It has perfectly placed >>> adjustable/locking straps to eliminate any movement or excess. The fabric >>> is waterproof, but it's not a "dry bag" in that the seams are not factory >>> sealed. For practical purposes your stuff is not going to get wet. >>> >>> I carry a small roll of tools, 2 40mm tubes, another small bag with >>> cell phone, wallet, neck buff, etc., a featherweight vest and water >>> resistant jacket that packs into your fist. I don't even "try" to pack it >>> in there tightly, and I still have another half a bag left . The bag rolled >>> up to it's smallest size it looks like a You could fit a 12" mini pump in >>> there, prolly longer as I have never used the bag @ full length. At it's >>> smallest rolled up size, it looks like an average seat bag. As you >>> expand/unroll it as needed it grows kinda like Pinocchio's nose ! >>> >>> If you are curious, do an image search for " Revelate Pika " and you can >>> see how it changes shapes as needed. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> ************************************************************ >> **************************** >> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/rbw-owners-bunch/BWTjbth6yaQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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