I haven't been following the thread, but I've found that higher bars, for me, 
cause hand and wrist pain. Keeping the bars about 2 inches lower than saddle 
height keeps me happy.

Just another data point,

Joe

> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:21:07 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Bar height and hand pain... don't know what else to do...
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 'Butt back' as so many have recommended may help take weight off of
> your hands, but may also require an extra degree of flexibility if it
> makes you stretch too far forward to meet the bars.  I have been there
> and (after getting a detailed professional bike fitting) wound up
> moving back forward some and my hips are happier for it.  If you do
> need to get further back, I have a VO post I'm not using and wouldn't
> mind selling.  It's a nice post, it just has too much offset for my
> current needs.
> 
> Saddle tilt is a (maybe THE) key factor.  If the nose is down even
> slightly too far, you are constantly using your hands to push your
> butt back where it belongs and the result will be hand problems.  Your
> saddle position should be neutral enough that your butt will stay put
> with no hands on the bars.
> 
> Raising the nose to the point that you stay put properly may cause
> other problems.  I am *very* sensitive to perineal pressure.  Like a
> lot of men my age I have a degree of BPH, and have had some very
> painful bouts with acute prostatitis.  It drove me to ride a recumbent
> for several years.  For years before that I rode with the saddle
> pointed down to take the pressure off of the sensitive bits.  The
> result?  Numb fingers.  Now I'm back to upright bikes, and paying lots
> of attention to saddle angle.  I have had to face the fact that I
> can't ride a stock Brooks saddle with the nose up where it belongs.
> Too much perineal contact!  A couple of my bikes now wear modern
> plasticky saddles with cutouts, and they do work.  In fact, the
> Specialized Alias on my silly go-fast bike is surprisingly comfortable
> given it's minimal padding (but only for  faster paced 'sporting' use,
> I wouldn't put one on a cruiser!).
> 
> I have modified the two Brookses I ride regularly to look something
> like a simplified Imperial.  My basic procedure is to use a 1/2" drill
> bit, drill out the three vent holes in the top of the saddle, connect
> the circles with more holes, add one more hole in front of the first
> vent hole, trim the edges smooth with a razor knife and burnish the
> cut edge with a little Proofide.  I don't know if they will hold up in
> the long term, but the slot relieves enough pressure to let me tilt
> the nose up, my butt stays back on the saddle without effort, and both
> hands and nether bits are happier.  I've laced the skirt of one of the
> saddles to help it keep its shape and may wind up lacing the second
> one as well.
> 
> I also have some hundreds of miles on a Selle Anatomica, which
> features a cutout.  It too needs careful tilt adjustment to work
> properly.
> 
> I can't emphasize enough that hand problems can start at the saddle,
> so get that right before making any other drastic changes.  It may be
> worth paying to a sympathetic professional fitter.  It was for me.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> On Feb 24, 11:49 am, William <[email protected]> wrote:
> > +1 on sliding the seat back as far as possible.  If you have a Brooks
> > and a seatpost with vaguely 'normal' setback, I'd urge you to try a
> > seatpost with more setback.  The S-83 appears to have a fair amount.
> > Velo Orange sells a $50 one that was specifically designed to get more
> > setback on short-railed saddles like the Brooks.
> >
> > Finally, I'd recommend that you make a conscious effort to get your
> > sit-bones back as far as possible on the saddle.  If that feels like
> > it takes a real effort and if it feels like you soon slide back
> > forward and have to readjust, then I'd add a +1 for saddle tilt to
> > help you keep the sit bones back.  I'd also recommend the following
> > test.  While you are riding on a flat in a straight line, it's my
> > opinion that you should be able to easily ride with you body in
> > EXACTLY the same position with your hand hovering 1cm above the
> > handlebar (not touching it).  If your body can't be there without your
> > hands holding your body up, it doesn't fit.  Lastly, addressing bar
> > height, your brake cables shouldn't stop you from getting the bars
> > higher if that's what you want to try.  Don't hesitate to rip off the
> > bar tape if it allows you to try something that might allow you to
> > ride without pain.
> >
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