I tend to agree, but in a great section of DC with a lot of bike lanes 
yesterday, a cyclist almost got hit by a car running a red light.

John, I think you'll be happy with any Riv for your purposes. Now it's just 
about what ride characteristics you like in a bike.

On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 11:58:45 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> 1) I believe your premise to be faulty. In my experience safety for 
> cyclists in the city comes from good infrastructure, then driver awareness 
> then cyclist behavior.
>
> 2) Any Riv where your hands are above the saddle will give you the relaxed 
> feeling you seek. I ride a Saluki with MAP bars and can ride both relaxed 
> and aggressive. The same bike with drop bars set fairly high gave me a 
> similar feeling. I feel as if the Sam or the AHH are the perfect gateway 
> bikes. I personally cannot get along with the angle that Albatross and 
> Billie bars demand my wrists to be at. So I would either wait for the 
> Wavvvvvvvie Gravy bar or buy the Billie/Albatross build kit and then put a 
> bar with a less parallel to the top tube angle allowing you to reuse stem, 
> shifters, etc. 
>
> -J
>
>

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