Oh, and adding to what I write above, just saw at the NAHBS site where
that over the top Yipsan won Best City Bike:

http://www.handmadebicycleshow.com/2010/02/2010-shimano-nahbs-award-winners/

Bling works.

On Feb 28, 8:30 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I love looking at all the bikes at the shows.  Although I get most of them
> confused by the end of the day though!
>
> But yeah, they are "show bikes."  Sort of like the concept cars they roll
> out at car shows to get attention and create a buzz.  Also to highlight the
> builder's skill.  (I love car shows, too!)
>
> It would be interesting to know how many sales are generated directly from
> the National as well as the smaller shows.  I read somewhere that a booth
> cost $1,000 at the NAHBS, not to mention transporting everything there and
> housing.  Quite an investment for those showing their wares.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:17 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > Well, I certainly share your taste in bikes.  For the most part I
> > prefer darker, somber colored bikes with classic silver components.
>
> > But I have a hard time faulting the over the top designs at bike
> > shows.  The bike builders are business people.  Assuming bike building
> > is their day job, they would have to sell at minimum at three bikes a
> > month to make anywhere near a decent living.
>
> > Much as many of us prefer simplicity, the fact is, loud gets
> > attention.  Case in point: I went to NAHBS in Indianapolis last year.
> > One of my favorite booths was Yipsan where the builder had a classic
> > road bike, a functional cross bike and another nice quiet ride.  I did
> > not bring a camera to the show, so I spent some time on line looking
> > for uploaded photos.  It took quite some time and hunting about.  It
> > appears Yipsan got the message, as this year as his rather flamboyant
> > mixte and rando are on multiple Flickr collections already, and the
> > show is not even over.
>
> > I do not know whether the attention will garner Yipsan more orders
> > this year than last, but suspect it will.  One hopes the customers
> > chose a more staid design.
>
> > On Feb 28, 6:41 pm, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I attended the NAHBS in San Jose three years ago and had the exact
> > > same reaction.  Give me simplicity and ridden-everyday beausage over
> > > technical cleverness and high polish any day.
>
> > > On Feb 28, 4:32 pm, Marty <mgie...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Got to see what all the fuss was about on Saturday morning. Granted,
> > > > there was plenty there to be inspired by, but honestly I was a bit
> > > > disappointed. Too much bling for me. Too many "sky's the limit"
> > > > designs. Too many over-worked wanna-be-masterpieces that showed off
> > > > mad skills with torches, welders and spray guns, but lacked the subtle
> > > > simplicity that demonstrates the restraint and maturity of a true
> > > > master - or the humility and honesty of an up-an-comer. Now I'm not
> > > > saying I could do better. I've never built a bike from raw tubes - I
> > > > know my limits. But it seems that the premise of the show itself may
> > > > be a misnomer when so much of the work is done by CNC driven lasers,
> > > > water jets and similar computer controlled machines. IMHO - the
> > > > intricate detail made possible by computers adds little to the overall
> > > > end result, and in many cases becomes a distraction. I may be alone in
> > > > this opinion - there was a whole lot of drool left on everything that
> > > > pushed the envelope in that regard. But gone was the Shaker-like
> > > > simplicity, practicality and celebration of the fundamental practical
> > > > forms that define two-wheeled transportation. No need to look for
> > > > innovative little details that mark progress - it was in your face -
> > > > chromed, polished and begging for attention. In many respects I felt
> > > > as if I may as well have attended a Low Rider bike show. I guess I'm
> > > > showing my age here, but the only booths I found myself lingering were
> > > > those where the frames were basically triangles, the paint was
> > > > basically one color - maybe two, and the overall vibe was that of
> > > > timelessness. Hank Folson was there with his Henry James lugs. Richard
> > > > Sachs with a pair of dirt-encrusted Cross bikes. Peter Mooney. Chris
> > > > Bishop. Bilenky. (Way to haul in the whole workshop guys!) Plenty of
> > > > pics on other sites, so you can judge for yourself. I found myself
> > > > back my the room looking at the Flickr Rivendell pages just for some
> > > > peace of mind. Worked like a charm.
>
> > > > Marty
>
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> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
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