Just saying we should be able to have a spirited discussion, be objective and 
not take things personally.

I am posting this link, but I should qualify that I am not trying to make any 
particular point; just that I was somewhat surprised at the punishment 
inflicted on  these CF frames. It made me sort of rethink my stance on CF a 
little. Still, this video prompts a lot of questions in itself. It is notable 
that when the carbon does fail, it does so spectacularly.

https://youtu.be/w5eMMf11uhM

I think . . . Well . . . Draw your own conclusions. :-)

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