Grant just posted a nice piece on the S vs. C topic:

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/206

Pedal Steel - It Don't Mean a Thang If It Ain't Got That Twang

Marty


On Mar 6, 3:53 pm, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> The idea of mixed lugs seems fitting & the term "refixedup" is
> catching.  On the price question, I dunno, it's a lot of work to first
> take apart a frame enough to get the damaged parts out & then re-
> build.  Think re-modeling a kitchen.  Probably a bit more to it than
> most of us realize.
>
> When we talk about the repairability of steel during our travels, for
> most of us that's a broken drop-out or failed rack mount.  These can
> be fixed by any weld repair shop in the developed world or the guy
> with the charcoal forge in a 3rd world country.  It'll be interesting
> to see how Rivendell fares on tube replacements.  I really hope it
> works out but I wouldn't expect huge discounts.  Hey, these bikes will
> have even more character, each being unique & with built-in history.
>
> dougP
>
> On Mar 6, 11:36 am, Beth H <periwinkle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gernot wrote:
> > > I do hope they come in at a significant savings over new ones (how
> > > about 33% off?).
>
> > Well, too much of a discount would force Rivendell to eat the cost of
> > repairs. I'd assume these are being handed over to a framebuilder for
> > tube replacement and then off to a painter. Consider the cost of
> > replacing a frame tube (last time I checked locally it ran around
> > 250-400 bucks per tube, depending on the builder); a simple powder-
> > coat job (including old paint removal and surface prep) will set you
> > back a MINIMUM of 100-150 bucks if done professionally. Of course
> > there's some devaluing to be expected because the frame had been in
> > need of repair in the first place; but all I'm saying is don't grumble
> > too much if the cost of repair forces Riv and Co. to set what some
> > might consider a high price for the finished product.
>
> > I would guess that resurrecting the frame to prove steel's durability
> > is more the point here. I don't expect a screaming bargain-basement
> > sort of thing, because if they est the price too low that WOULD
> > devalue everything else they do.
>
> > I'm just sayin'...

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