The custom Rivs w/ a Joe Bell paint job are just amazing to look at.
Functionally, they're not a whole bunch if any different than production
bikes.
I think of my All Rounder as a AHH with cantis and a very nice paint job.

Waterford Rivs don't have the same cache as a Joe/Curt/Mark bike.  Again,
functionally the same though.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Doug Van Cleve <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd wager that the vast majority of Riv customs don't deviate much
> from standard RBW geometries of the time.  Functionally, the various
> production bikes might be pretty much the same, but the Joe Starck/
> Curt Goodrich/ Mark Nobilette/ ? built bikes are absolutely more
> finely crafted than any of the Waterford or Toyo frames...
>
> IMHO of course,
> Doug
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2010, Dustin Sharp <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If aesthetics matter, some customs might have better filing on the lugs
> and
> > higher quality paint. Bu to me the real value of a custom is not things
> like
> > paint, but the fact that tubes are actually chosen for your weight,
> rather
> > than with a 300lb rider in mind.
> >
> > So I'd say a used custom might be worth a premium to me if the original
> > owner was near my weight, had a preference for the same level of frame
> flex,
> > and the bike had been built accordingly. Often we don't know those
> things,
> > so a used custom to me isn't worth that much more than a quality stock
> frame
> > in my size.
> >
> > Dustin
>
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