I'm trying to distinguish frame flex from faster riding. For me, I'm not sure that a Roadeo and Roadini built to the same weight would ride any faster. Of course, I feel a dramatic difference when I go from my 35 lb racked and bagged up Hilsen to my 22 lb Roadeo, but I doubt that much of that is due to the tubing. Would a similarly built up Ram and Roadeo feel different? Yes, I think the Roadeo would feel faster because it handles faster. I don't know if it would go any faster, but maybe once you get the feel for the livelier-handling Roadeo other bikes would feel slow. I don't know if that has anything to do with the tubing, but that's hard to tell. As far as frame flex/planing goes I don't notice any on my bikes--maybe a little on the Roadeo when I'm mashing up hills out of the saddle, but not convincingly noticeable--only on my heavily loaded AHH did I feel a consistent spring from the frame flex...
I know that Bill built up his Roadini and it feels fast and he goes fast on it. I guess he might be a good person to comment on the tubing because he has a lightish Roadini and a light Legolas... Toshi Toshi On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 11:48 AM Lum Gim Fong <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am 147lbs and 5'8" > For me a noticeable diff between Bleriot/Sam, then a step up in ease of > pedalling to Ram, then a dramatic step up to Roadeo. I can also confirm the > diffs in mph and cog diffs in familiar terrain. Higher toothcounts front > and back on Roadeo and getting up hills easier than with the other bikes. > Though I am not obsessed with speed, but want a bike that moves easily as > I pedal along and doesn't bog down on hills and make me feel like I am > fighting the bike. > > I am guessing the diff is in frame tubing because the Roadeo is definitely > the more efficient bike, even with very similar Rivish build. Maybe > chainstay length, too. > > Toshi is about same size as me and we ride same frame sizes. > Perhaps our diffs are in fit measurements. > Also, Toshi is a power Randonneur, so he can probably blast any bike down > the road with ease. > Where I am a weak rider and maybe can feel the diffs. > I remember that BQ stated the most dramatic diffs felt in their tires are > felt by weak/slow riders. Maybe the same for tubing diffs. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
