you can also brace the stein tool on the inside dropout, within the 
triangle 

On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 11:29:49 PM UTC-8, John Rinker wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has experience with using the Stein 'hypercracker' 
> Shimano cassette remover on their Riv frames. In particular, I concerned 
> about where the locking device (mini-stud) would connect with the dropout- 
> right on a braze-on- when using the tool to remove the lock-ring on the 
> cassette. According to Stein's instructions, one is not supposed to let the 
> mini-stud connect with the derailleur hanger and so recommends the the back 
> of the dropout. Unfortunately (fortunately in most cases!), Riv's have a  
> braze-on right there. Seems to me that it would pop that braze-on right 
> off. Seems to me the derailleur hanger would be much stronger.
>
> [image: DSCN9461.jpg]
> These tools are meant for emergency situations only when one is far from a 
> bike shop or their own whip and lockring tool.
>
> Cheers, John
>

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