I also prefer the slotted Cambium.  It has more flex.  The non-slotted C17
felt like a Brooks Professional; the stiff top keeps its "dome" shape.
Whereas the slotted C17 flexes under my sitbones a little and feels more
like a B17.  Not as comfy as a broken-in B17, but more like a fresh one
(which is comfortable to those who are accustomed).

I have C17s on my three bikes that often spend time in the dirt, and B17s
(one copper Special, one sprung Flyer) on the two that don't see dirt often.

As for width, I agree with Will that it is related to riding position.  I
stick with 17s because they feel good in the riding positions I use.  My
rarely-ridden "townie bike" ('88 Schwinn KOM MTB now built as an upright
tourer) would probably feel good with a 190 mm wide saddle, but the Flyer I
have works fine.  Especially considering its little use.

Also, the Brooks shape makes riders very sensitive to the saddle angle.
Perfect when you find the right angle, but painful until you do.  I like
dead level, but many folks have other preferences (based on body shape,
rider position, etc).  Experiment with angle, setback, etc?

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:10 PM Tim Bantham <tba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Will's recent Email about selecting a Brooks has me thinking about trying
> a Cambium again. I've tried the Cambium C17 in the past. At first I liked
> it well enough but that changed the first time I had to do a long ride. I
> ride my Sam with Alba's and Appaloosa with Billie's. I would say that my
> position on the bike is upright-ish. Over the course of a longer ride I
> found that the C17 was downright painful. Specifically, my sit bones
> started to feel like it was grinding into the top of the saddle with every
> pedal stroke.
>
> Has anyone tried a C17 a found that you didn't like it but later had
> success with another Cambium model? Will had said that the slotted version
> of the C17 is way better than the non-slotted version. I also heard that
> the C19 was the way to go. I am skeptical of the C19 because I just don't
> know if my position is considered to up right enough to warrant a much
> wider saddle then I have ridden in the past. I realize that one's saddle
> choice is far from a one size fits all approach. I thought I'd ask for
> other users experiences as a starting point before I explore trying a
> Cambium again. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Tim
>
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