Rick

The Legolas and Roadini have completely different tubesets.  Maybe you mean 
geometry?  That's also very different, in my view.  The Legolas is a 
cyclocross race bike.  The Roadini is a road un-racing bike.  The biggest 
difference is that the Roadini has a much larger stack.  This means it is 
way easier to get your bars way higher than the Legolas.  The Legolas puts 
you in a racing position.  The BB drop is 5mm smaller on the Legolas, so my 
Legolas with 38mm tires has about a 15mm higher BB height than my Roadini 
with 28mm tires.  

Even though they are both bike shaped objects, especially if they both have 
drop bars on them, I consider them very very different.  Looking for 
similarities between them would be limited to "they both are set up to fit 
me" and "when that's the bike I choose to ride, they both make me happy".  

I don't know if this is what you are after. If you were looking for a 
cyclocross racing bike, the Legolas would have been a good choice.  The 
Roadini would not be my first choice as a budget substitute for a 
cyclocross racing bike.  

I am not a cyclocross racer, but I am a sometimes mountain bike racer and I 
do a lot of mountain bike riding at race level intensity.  Rivendells in 
general are intended to be ridden with a smile on your face.  The Legolas 
is the most stark counter-example to that.  Cyclocross racing is not fun.  
Cyclocross racing is very short, very intense, very painful efforts over 
terrain that a bicycle can barely handle. Few racers are smiling in a 
typical cyclocross race, until afterwards.  Many of my training rides are 
of this short, intense variety and my Legolas is intended for use in those 
kinds of rides. I suppose I could reconfigure the Legolas to be a 
substitute road bike.  I could put smooth tires on it, even fenders.  I 
could put a much taller stem, or Albastache bars like the one in the BLUG, 
and it becomes something other than a cyclocross race bike.  I have lots of 
other bikes for those purposes, so I'm not planning to do that 
reconfiguration.  I'm sure I will someday do a 70-mile road cruise on my 
Legolas, or a 90-mile round trip to the top of Mount Diablo and back.  It's 
capable of those things, to be sure, but it's still first and foremost a 
race bike in its central core.  

Bill

On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 4:55:31 AM UTC-8, Rick wrote:
>
> Bill I was admiring your Legolas post from back in April, there was some 
> discussion of the similarities b/w the Legolas and Roadini in tube set, 
> etc, was wondering what the differences are.  Is there a higher bottom 
> bracket for cross, for instance?
>
> Rick. 
>

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