I think both things are true. the B17 seems to have a relatively small comfortable/usable area, and the rear of it is somehow the worst. that said, i cant imagine riding a bike where my tailbone contacted the saddle on any sort of regular basis. i had a sam for a while and for about a week it had a B17 with albatross bars on one of the longer tallux stems. My feeling was that the bars were making the ride really cramped and kept making me want to scoot back or find a way to stretch out. eventually i went to the map ahearne bars and was very happy. thats just me though, and the final position was not bolt upright. i think super upright would require a different saddle for sure.
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