On Mar 24, 6:45 pm, dpco <[email protected]> wrote:
> i have to start off by saying that i am an owner of a riv
> bike( roadeo ). i totally respect rivendell. what type of bike is the
> "hunqapallar"? i look at some of the pictures and  think its' a
> mountain bike.
> don c.

For me, the Hunqapillar represents a fully loaded touring bike that
comes in a large size frame.  For some reason, Rivendell stopped
making the Atlantis in the large sizes.  Frames as large as 68cm have
a tendency to be too flexy, and the double top tube on a Hunqapillar
should make the large size frames much sturdier.   Another way to
build sturdier large sized frames is to use tubes with larger
diameters, but then you probably have to build custom lugs to
accommodate those fatter tubes.  I don't know what considerations
prompted Rivendell to go with the double top tube instead of fatter
tubes.   Personally, I thought the double top tube bikes were really
ugly when I first saw them.  But I've seen some Bombadil's that I
really like.  Check out Renee's beautiful Bombadil:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/

Comparing the geometries of a 60cm Bombadil and a 62cm(the biggest)
Hunqapillar, there is not much difference.  The chainstays are 46.5
and 46(Hunqapillar), and the theoretical top tube is 63 v. 62.5
cm(Hunqapillar).  The most significant difference in my mind is the
bottom bracket drop: 7 v. 8 cm(Hunqapillar).     That is evidence that
the Bombadil is more mountain bike than the Hunqapillar.  But maybe
someone who has toured with a fully loaded Bombadil can comment on
whether they felt that the 7 cm bottom bracket drop was too high or
not.

By the way, if you haven't ridden a modern full suspension mountain
bike, then you are really missing out.  I would much rather buy a real
mountain bike than a Bombadil for mountain biking.  But if you only
want to buy one bike, and you want to ride single track and and ride
on the road with it...

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