Jay, actually it does, since you're talking about hackable design features.
With all those issues, what does the BarSack offer that the Acorn doesn't? Or the Campagne or the Zugster, for that matter? Due to the BarSack's positioning, especially on a Rivvish/Bobbish positioning, I don't see good front end behavior coming out of this. So far I'm hacking my old Rhode Gear bag to suit a top/bottom mount. This will move it about two inches closer to the steering axis and two inches lower. This will reduce the bag's effect on fork moment of inertia considerably, which can't be a bad thing. The bike was showing some not-good handling features due to positioning the bag high and three inches or so out from the 'bar. It should be improved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM, J. Burkhalter <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think there is anything inherently special about the mounting > of this bag that would prevent you from hacking it for use with a > decaleur and front rack. I'm still waiting on the F-15 Nitto rack so > haven't tried the BarSack yet, but here are some things I would > consider before using this bag with a decaleur/front rack setup... > > 1. There is no horizontal leather strip along the top edge of the rear > of the bag where one would typically attach a decaleur. Instead there > is a 2-snap leather tab and the magnets for securing the lid. > 2. There is no slot or strap on the rear of the bag to attach to the > vertical part of a front Nitto or Berthoud rack. > 3. There are no stiffeners in the bag. The stiffener out of my Acorn > Rando bag fits in the Riv Barsack well, but would still need securing > at the top. > > IMO, for $135 this bag is a screaming deal, given the high quality > materials, craftsmanship, and design. > > Hope this helps, > -Jay > Denver, CO > > > > On Mar 24, 7:29 am, Ken Freeman <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's been my thinking, too. I guess the underlying question is whether > > Grant is prone to hyperbole, since I don't really follow Riv too closely. > > It's either an amazing statement, an incomplete statement (as you > suggest), > > or sales fluffle (e.g, hyperbole). > > > > I'm in the middle of modifying my old Rhode Gear bag to take a decaleur > so I > > can test my Woodrup's geometry. I really don't see why any flat-bottomed > > bag that can accept a decaleur at the right height can't be front-racked. > > > > I'm just wondering if there's anything really special about this bag from > a > > mounting point of view. Looks to me like not. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 09:07 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote: > > > > Has anyone tried one yet? Whadd'ya think? > > > > > > The on-line page says it must be used with the special Nitto F15 > rack, > > > > which mounts to the handlebar. Anybody see why? Why can't it be > used > > > > with a decaleur and a little front bag rack, like a TA, Berthoud, or > > > > Nitto? > > > > > I see no reason why it couln't be used that way, Ken. I modified one > of > > > the original Kirtland Tour Paks (which also were originally meant to be > > > supported by rods, only the Kirtland hooked over the stem rather than > > > bolted to it like the Nitto) so I could use it with a VO front rack and > > > a Berthoud Decaleur > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668210913/in/set-721576061. > .. > > > and I've seen one of the old Riv Boxy Bags mounted that way also. > > > > > I think the intent is to say you can't just strap it onto the > handlebars > > > and let it hang loose, like you can with some of the other Riv > handlebar > > > bags. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]><rbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib > [email protected]> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Ken Freeman > > Ann Arbor, MI USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
