It should be up today or tomorrow. The thing about geospreadsheets is...they tend to mesmerize and confuse people, because they always leave out numbers that are affected by other numbers, and if you read the included numbers and compare them to geospreads of other bikes with the same numbers, but which have different unincluded numbers, then the included numbers tell a different story, even though they're the same. Seat tube angle and top tube (as 'splained in a past RR) are big. Head tube height and fork length are big, but you can't compare those to other bikes with different wheel sizes. Bar height affects how a bike feels, and messes with head tube angle and fork rake. It's nebuchadnevver because I want to hide secrets. Just want to clarify that. Something will go up today, but a few customers have asked for geos and been sent 'em...but the thing going up today or tomorrow will answer most geoquestions. Basically: Loooooong chainstays; lotsa drop because the H is made for big tires; 6-degree upslope; shallowish 72-deg seat tubes (although I drift into 71.5 some these days, because even with 72s people are shoving the saddle all the way back, so let's give them a leg-up); usually 72-deg head tubes, and rake that accounts for some presumed tire diameter.
One thing that comes up often enough is "Is there toe clip overlap?" and that one's hard to answer without more questions. With how bigga tire, and will you have a fender, and how far from the tire will the fender be? How big is your foot, and are you going to lock in with the ball of your foot over the pedal axle, or will you pedal Prant Getersen style with your foot roaming free all the heck over the pedal, which sometimes means sticking your toes out more toward the tire or fender ? But in the end, if a med-size this-kinda-bike fits you and you must have max toe clip clearance, get the 650B Bomba, because the smaller big tire helps things there. I've never overvalued TCC (and hope for yourzhall's sake this doesn't restart a thread), and when the tire size and the kow-towing to it means redesigning the front of the bike, then I think it's time to either get another bike with a smaller tire. I hope the other Hunqaframes come back from the painter today, and we'll get them up (may not beat Jim!). There will be small decal changes. As for the lug-lining: I've been anti-luglining my whole life, ever since I was one, but Mark here had a bike of his repainted (and when you do that, and you pay Joe Bell yourself, you're beyond the reach of my wagging finger)---and it was an epiphanical moment for me---staring at something that didn't meet my theoretical standards, but which looked so good anyway. So, I've flip-flopped on that one, at least when it's done so well and at least with these certain colors. I think it has to do with the color values. The kidney bean red and the dark grey are both underexposed a stop or two, and the lining adds something to their meeting point that doesn't need to be added when there's more tonal contrast. I'm feeling slightly uncomfortable talking like an art director here, but at least I know what I mean, even if I'm not describing it fantabulously. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
