You do not have to buy a custom to get a lugged Riv frame, There are still non-TIGed production frames - Atlantis, etc.
The steel 3 speed Shimano is the only hub that I have ever had that broke spokes, but maybe it was the bike (Trek Belville). The Alfines make a lot of noise (even brand new) and are sensitive to exact adjustment - the "indexing" takes place in the shifter, not the hub. The gear spacing is uneven. The hubs are the same for belt or chain, just different sprockets. I have been told that the top of the line Jagwire Slick-Lube liner housing helps with the shifting, but have not tried it yet. Certain models of Bendix two speed hubs are direct drive top gear - the stripe color on the hub is how you can tell. Not sure which is the color indicates the underdrive models. Laing On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:07:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > I don't agree; someone else pointed out the RS RF3 or somesuch which is > basically an AW with aluminum shell, 129 OL spacing, and 32 holes. And the > price I just saw -- #1,239.99 or so -- is certainly less than a Riv custom > frame! > > Why do you dislike the Shimano 3 speed and the Alfines? (Note: No interest > in belts.) > > The various kickbacks would be very worth considering, for my needs, > except that high is overdrive, not direct; the reverse would suit me fine > -- 70 and 51 would be very nice. > > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:43 PM lconley <lco...@brph.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Low drag IGH + Wide Range + 135OLD + 32 hole + Reliable + aluminum + Cost >> Not Important = Rolhoff (even available in fancy anodized finish to match >> SON front dyno hubs) >> >> Very expensive - you can get a new lugged Rivendell frame for the cost of >> a Rolhoff. >> >> I have a Shimano 3 speed IGH - not recommended, a Nexus and two Alfine 8 >> speed hubs (belt drive), not really recommended either, but the less >> expensive Nexus works better (quieter) than either of the Alfines. I think >> I may need to disassemble the Alfines and re-lubricate - I have read that >> they do not necessarily come properly lubricated out of the box. >> >> I also have a couple of Sturmey Archer 2 speed kickback coaster brake >> hubs - not recommended for going down steep hills. >> >> Laing >> Cocoa FL >> >> >> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 5:49:17 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> I took a brief but rather nice ride this afternoon between projects, >>> choosing the 2003 errand Riv so I could pick up some books from the >>> library, but also because after badmouthing it for a couple of year, I've >>> recently been riding the S3X, but with freewheel (17 t, 48 t ring, 24.75" >>> tire, 70-53-44 gi). >>> >>> I'm out of shape for hills -- I generally ride mostly N-S along the >>> River valley (at just about exactly 1 mile high; 4980 at lowest point near >>> me, IIRC), which is dead flat, eking out my workload in strong southwestery >>> winds. >>> >>> So on the way to the library I decided to try a nice detour west of me >>> toward Boca Negra canyon, and see what I could do to the short but sharp >>> climb. In "hill shape" I can make it 2/3 of the way in a 67" gear on a >>> light bike; but I've not yet cleared teh steepest part. >>> >>> It went well. The grade starts out at 3 or 4% and then quickly steepens >>> to 9 10, 13 before decreasing to 10 and then again 4 near the summit. >>> >>> In shape I could easily do the steep bit in the 53" with effort, but the >>> 44 allowed me to clear it -- standing, of course -- with only moderate >>> exhaustion, so to speak: I was tired, but I could have done at least a bit >>> more. >>> >>> I'd love to replace the fw with a fixed cog, but 70" is just too low to >>> spin at any downhills speed, and for me, at least, the huge lash is just >>> too annoying to tolerate. So fw it is. >>> >>> Segueing: Give me advice on hub gears with these qualities: >>> >>> 1. Lowest drag (my reading indicates that this is the AW or, at least, 3 >>> speed hubs with single planetary systems; ami right? >>> >>> 2. Biggest gaps. Again, while I know that SA made very wide ratio hubs, >>> the standard 3 speed today is 1.33, 1.0. 0.75 -- or have I missed one? >>> >>> 3. 130 or at least ~127 OL spacing. >>> >>> 4. 32 or 40 holes -- I want to use 32 hole rims, not 36. >>> >>> 5. Aluminum shell if possible. >>> >>> 6. Reputation for durability and reliability of operation -- doesn't >>> creep out of adjustment and leave you straddling the top tube after it >>> slips in 1st while you are honking hard and slow up a steep hill. >>> >>> Cost is a very, very distant #7. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *------------------------------------------------------------------------------------* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >>> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >>> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >>> --- J.R.R. 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