First, I'll say "ditto" to everything Drw said. 

I owned an 84 expedition before purchasing my current canti-sam with double 
top tube.  I used the expedition as a commuter for a while before taking it 
on a tour from Edmonton to Missoula.  It performed fine fully loaded, but I 
found it a little noodly on the climbs and squirrely on the descents.  Not 
too bad, but noticeable.  Also, I am by no means a Clyde at 6'0", 135lbs.  
My Sam is noticeably stiffer, and I much prefer how it rides with a load:  
stable, predictable, smooth.  

On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 10:03:51 AM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>
> I briefly had an 84 expedition and older Sam hillborne at the same time. 
> Not an AHH, but I believe Grant said there are no functional differences in 
> the two, especially when they were both sidepull. 
> Anyway. I thought the expedition and hillborne were really similar. 
> Hillborne was a 2 top tube model and felt marginally stiffer. I think the 2 
> biggest things I remember are that it was easier to get the bars where I 
> wanted them on the Sam, and tire clearance was greatly increased. 
> On my expedition I could fit 36’s and much less with fenders. On the Sam, 
> I could get 50’s in with Paul racers. To me that made a big difference, 
> especially how comfortably it handled trails. 
>

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