Yea! I'm looking at my Rawland here in the office, thinking "I have all the parts for a trail-bred Hillborne except wheels."
Indeed, the lower tt makes a Hillborne a great candidate for trails. That's the one unmentioned aspect in all this underbiking business -- its nice to have some space between the frame and your "business." So, the "Riv" frenchy fit may work fine, but tempt reproductive catastrophe out on bumpy trails, especially if the rider is on platform pedals. Yikes! If the Hilsen is the classic country bike, then perhaps the Sam is pretty perfect for trails. Then you swap tires and take it on a tour up to Canada. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Mar 30, 10:16 am, Dustin Sharp <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow! That bike really pops off the screen. > > Nice! > > > > > > > From: Esteban <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT) > > To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post. > > > Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4449447882/sizes/l/ > > > Pretty awesome! Mike - have you thought of adding 'cross levers? > > They might do the trick nicely. > > > I'd prefer an Hillborne built up this way to a Hunqa. But that's > > perhaps meant for beefier riding/loads? > > > Esteban > > San Diego, Calif. > > > On Mar 30, 9:54 am, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote: > >> My Hillborne is pretty close to Chris's all rounder with slightly > >> smaller 700x40 knobbies. I did start with Noodle drop bars but after a > >> particularly steep and long dirt downhill this past Sunday I am > >> starting to think about a different handlebar. Maybe a WTB dirt drop > >> ( with black ano removed! ) because long continous braking is much > >> better in the drops which are not as comfortable on the Noodles. Can't > >> access Flicker from work but pics are at my site under Mikeybikes. The > >> Hillborne is perfect for this with the upslope top tube. Next up are > >> some 700x 45 or 47 knobbies, I've been eyeing the Kenda Karma's at > >> 1.9" wondering if they would fit? > > >> ~Mike~ > > >> On Mar 30, 9:23 am, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> I just caught > > this:http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC0..>>> > . > > > > >>> andhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/ > > >>> Kindred spirits. > > >>> So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner? Or post pics if > >>> you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect for such a build. > >>> Don't mean to hijack the "skinny tires offroad" thread. > > >>> Esteban > >>> San Diego, Calif. > > >>> On Mar 30, 9:06 am, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun, > >>>> provocative, and useful. Rough riding & underbiking is where its at. > >>>> Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society > >>>> riders down here. > > >>>> It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or > >>>> 35s out on the trails. Its a gas. I'm also having a gas on the > >>>> Rawland with 58mm knobbies, but all-rounder geometry. Think "XO-1 > >>>> with a 6 degree upslope tt and fat ass tires." I don't get out on > >>>> singletrack as much as I like, but when I do (Big Laguna loop, Los > >>>> Penasquitos Preserve, San Clemente Canyon, Nobel Canyon here in SD > >>>> County), I certainly have a ball on that bike. I like to ride to the > >>>> trail if possible, and the knobbies sure do cause a racket! > > >>>> I'm an overly cautious rider on dirt, and as Chris mentions, a lot of > >>>> where I ride can be pretty darn rocky offroad. And if I'm to believe > >>>> Dustin, some of the rides I'd like to do would cause more sanity with > >>>> suspension. > > >>>> I think suspension is helpful if you're in a group. The thing is, and > >>>> here's where I think Grant's spot on (if indeed conservative), if you > >>>> just go slow, hike-a-bike, enjoy the scenery, you can take any bike > >>>> nearly anywhere. > > >>>> Looking forward to the Rough Riders Rally to discuss this further with > >>>> kindred souls! > > >>>> On Mar 30, 9:28 am, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at [email protected] wrote: > > >>>>>> I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from > >>>>>> his > >>>>>> location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on > >>>>>> trails, > >>>>>> going > >>>>>> all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking. The less you > >>>>>> look > >>>>>> like a "Mountain biker," the less likely you are to face the wrath of > >>>>>> upset > >>>>>> hikers and ticket writing rangers. > > >>>>> Actually, Grant and Rivendell's location is in the East Bay - > >>>>> specifically > >>>>> Contra Costa county. That doesn't change or undercut his message - and > >>>>> in > >>>>> fact his comments are incredibly salient. > > >>>>> I, on the other hand, have somehow managed to remain in Marin. > > >>>>> Lucky me... ;^) > > >>>>> In the interest of not promoting stereotypes, it should be noted that > >>>>> attitudes of hostility here in "the birthplace of mountain biking" have > >>>>> refined and mellowed over the years. Yes, there are high-profile and > >>>>> hotheaded comments made from the same entrenched individuals on both > >>>>> sides > >>>>> of access issues, and that tends to get press when it happens. But, the > >>>>> facts are that bicycles have been common on the trails for more than 20 > >>>>> years. in general, people are used to them and realize they aren't going > >>>>> anywhere. > > >>>>> Most people behave well. Many people could use some constructive > >>>>> criticism. > >>>>> Some people have no clue. > > >>>>>http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=273 > > >>>>> I do find that when people see me way up some trail on the Hilsen or > >>>>> Quickbeam, the first response is to smile. But, I'm pretty proactive in > >>>>> doing the same and finding something to comment about, other than saying > >>>>> "onyerleft". Wildflowers, birds and weather are always good starting > >>>>> points. > > >>>>> - Jim > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Jim Edgar > >>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>> Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > >>>>> Current Classics - Cross Bikes > >>>>> Singlespeed - Working Bikes > >>>>> Workshops of the iBob's- Hide quoted text - > > >>> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW > > Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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